Talk:Frank Duncan (catcher)

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There is at least one other Frank Duncan that I'm aware of - the British actor - who I think deserves an article in his own right. Alfietucker (talk) 20:06, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Three Negro league players named Frank Duncan

There were three men who played at one time or another in the Negro leagues named Frank Duncan. The best known is the subject of this article. There was another Frank Duncan, an outfielder who began his career 10 years earlier and played contemporaneously with this man, but was at that time generally called "Pete" Duncan. The third Frank Duncan was Frank Lee Duncan III, a pitcher and the son of our man here. They were the first major-league level father-and-son battery when the younger Frank joined the Monarchs in 1941.

We do not have articles on the other two Frank Duncans who were Negro league baseball players, but we need to be careful, as I just had to revert some changes that conflated Frank "Pete" Duncan's career with Frank Lee Duncan's.

-- Couillaud 21:14, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

If this is the most likely primary target for Frank Duncan, then start two stub articles, Frank Duncan (outfielder) and Frank Duncan (pitcher), then add a hatnote at the top of this article. If there is a question as to which Frank is the primary target, move this article to Frank Duncan (catcher) and turn this page into a disambiguation page, and add {{Other people}} to the top of each Frank's article. --64.85.214.4 (talk) 11:45, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Father or son in WWII?

I know the NLBMuseum site lists this Frank Duncan as being drafted at age 42(!), but CNLBR lists his son, Frank Duncan III, as being drafted. That would make sense as he would have been around 20 or so. Pinging @Couillaud: because Monarchs. (BTW, I'm the IP from above). Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 23:04, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Frank Duncan Jr. was drafted into the Army shortly after the end of the 1942 season (28 November 1942). According to my notes, he was promoted to sergeant in the 371st Infantry Regiment of the 92nd Division, and set a regimental marksmanship record in rapid firing from 200 yards, 31 out of 32 bullseyes. (source: Kansas City Call) He was released 3 March 1943 (source: Ancestry.com) and returned to manage the Monarchs in 1943.

Frank Lee Duncan III also served (as an Army private) during WW2. (source: [1] FindAGrave)

Hope this helps. Good to hear from you.

-- Couillaud 17:38, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for responding, Couillaud. Afterwards I had dug deeper into age limits for the WWII draft and was surprised to see it so high. I also found that most draftees over 40 were doctors or other high-skilled professions and were drafted as officers. To see Duncan go in as a grunt is disappointing. S.O.P. for the era I guess.

While I have you, since you have notes on Duncan, do you have any on Buck O'Neil? I asked over at WT:MILHIST but was told most service records were destroyed in a fire. His military info is, to say the least, lacking. Much rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 18:14, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Without definitive notes in front of me, all I can say from memory is that he served in the Navy (he missed the 1944 and 1945 seasons), served his enlistment stateside (IIRC, at Lakehurst Naval Air Base), and was discharged in time for the start of the 1946 season.

It's been my observation that many of the Negro Leagues players who were drafted did not serve in front line action, relegated more to mops and shovels than to guns, it seemed. Possibly was the S.O.P. for the era.

One exception that I can name was Monarchs catcher Joe Greene, who did serve in a combat unit. His Wiki page mentions his service, and his unit's historical footnote.

It's unusual that you caught me so quickly. Normally, I look at Wikipedia two or three times a week, but rarely even glance at the watchlist, and barely noticed that I'd been pinged.

-- Couillaud 21:19, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Well, if you have some spare time soon, maybe drop in some add'l info on O'Neil's article about his service, or maybe leave some notes on the talk page that can be worked into the article eventually. Appreciate it. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 04:59, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Frank Duncan III and Julia Lee

See Talk:Julia Lee (musician)#Frank Duncan III. Викидим (talk) 23:33, 1 June 2023 (UTC)