Talk:Early Girl

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Orphan banner removed

Early Girl appears in List of tomato cultivars. I am removing the orphan banner.Hammerdrill (talk) 18:26, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Early girl vs early girl improved

This article doesn't even mention Early Girl Improved. Nor does it say if the content applies to it. Clarification and history regarding the matter would be nice. 75.174.73.177 (talk) 23:12, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

It should be noted that the VFF version (which is mentioned) is newer than Early Girl Improved, which in turn is newer than Early Girl. It should also be noted that the open-pollinated Early Girl is based off of the original Early Girl. 71.220.185.68 (talk) 23:43, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

PVP for hybrids?

I don't know of any evidence that Early Girl was ever a PVP variety, or patented, for that matter. PVP doesn't provide protections for hybrids, anyway, since they don't breed true, and the protections are for sexual production of plants that do breed true (it's for open-pollinated varieties). Usually, commercial hybrids are protected by keeping one or more of the parents a secret. Often, the company is the only one who has the parent lines, anyway (as they are not commercially available). So, there is no need for intellectual property rights to be had here (let alone PVP), unless they contain genes that are patented (which Early Girl doesn't). Genetically engineered crops tend to have patented genes, on the other hand (but Early Girl is not genetically engineered). 71.220.185.68 (talk) 23:48, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

I should note that it is possible that one or more of Early Girl's direct parents may have been PVP (if PVP existed back then), and the protections extend to the next generation wherein it's an F1 hyrbid (but not to the F2+ generations). So, if that were the case, it would be more accurate to say so, rather than to say Early Girl was PVP. 71.220.185.68 (talk) 23:55, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

It should be noted that consumers of PVP plants/seeds do have the right to save seeds and grow them again (so even if Early Girl were protected by its parents' PVP status then people could still legally have bred open-pollinated varieties out of it, which likely would have been different from Early Girl anyway, though). 71.220.185.68 (talk) 00:04, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Also, when speaking of expired intellectual property (such as PVP and patents), we really need to know which Early Girl variety the intellectual property pertained to (Early Girl, Early Girl Improved or Early Girl VFF). The answer could be different for all three. 71.220.185.68 (talk) 00:01, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Start of season?

When do these tomatoes generally become available at farmers markets in the Bay Area, where they are (mostly) grown? How long does the season last? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.70.237.99 (talk) 20:13, 9 February 2020 (UTC)