Talk:Diane Harkey

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Diane Harkey's political biography is cast in a positive tone that omits recent scandals involving the practices of her husband's business, Point Center Financial, Inc., a real estate investment firm. In November, 2008, some investors in Harkey's funds filed suit in San Diego Superior Court in which plaintiffs, some of whom were friends and neighbors of the Harkeys, accusing Dan Harkey of fraud in the management of funds. There was also an allegation of a Ponzi scheme. Newspaper reports of this may be found in the archives of the <ref> Los Angeles Times and the <ref> Orange County Register for published dates in February of 2009. In these reports there is also mention of the SEC investigation of the firm's real estate lending practices. An amended claim by plaintiffs was filed in Orange County's Superior Court.

Diane Harkey previously has denied through a spokesman any involvement with her husband's business or for funds received from it for her previous campaigns for elected office for Mayor of Dana Point, an unsuccessful bid for a State Senate seat and her last successful one for the CA 73rd State Assembly District. "State election records show she contributed $935,000 to her senate campaign and $150,000 to her assembly campaign." reported the Orange County Register article. It is uncertain if court filed papers have shown Diane Harkey to have been documented as an employee or officer of Point Center, but a website has been devoted to following the progress of the suit and for publishing its own substantiation of valid "evidence" for the plaintiffs' case, at pointcenterinvestigation.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chackwith (talkcontribs) 20:11, 23 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

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This section looks WP:UNDUE as the sourcing says Harkey was not implicated in this legal matter. It looks like an issue with her husband and seems like WP:COATRACK here. May be worth mentioning, maybe in personal life section, but a whole section when Harkey is mentioned incidentally in the sourcing is too much. Marquardtika (talk) 03:03, 4 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Marquardtika: Thank you for your contribution to the article and your thoughts here. I agree on the need to avoid WP:COATRACK. However, I believe the Point Center Financial episode is noteworthy because:
  • She seems to have co-founded the business with her husband, and in any case was an officer of it at the time of its financial failure that left investors with little or nothing.
  • She seems to have played fast-and-loose with her obligation to pay family debts by claiming to be officially separated from her husband, a claim which seems to be bogus, which in turn raises questions of ethics, specifically lying about her marital status to a state official in an effort to keep her salary.
  • It seems that in fact she and her husband were not separated and shared their incomes and expenses.
  • She lent significant amounts of money to her campaign, money that could have gone to help satisfy the millions that investors lost. Even if legally, she could not be forced to use her personal funds in this way, it is noteworthy that a person who has held elected local, state legislative and state executive positions and now seeks to hold federal legislative office as a public servant is unwilling to help people who were defrauded by her family business, even if she had no role in that fraud.
  • It seems that after the bankruptcy, she and her husband owned a multi-million-dollar house, and her husband individually or with Diane seems to own several very expensive automobiles that could have been sold to help the people who lost their life savings, as many public servants would choose to do for any combination of morality and trying their best to look good politically.
  • It seems that some of the money to buy that home and those automobiles came from fees charged to the investors who lost their life savings, which means that she is personally benefiting from money taken from defrauded investors.
  • Instead of owning up to his responsibility for destroying the retirements of numerous investors, her husband countersued the winners of the lawsuit.
  • During her service at the Board of Equalization, two separate state boards audited and found abuse of office in the areas of nepotism and using state employees for private purposes.
Most of this has not been introduced in Diane Harkey, but it's an extraordinary story of a family that wants the public to trust it to manage the assets and safety of the entire United States but badly mismanaged the assets of both the state of California and investors, and she seems to deny responsibility and lack remorse, and she has worked to avoid giving up anything. If anything, this section should be expanded with reliably sourced material. —Anomalocaris (talk) 00:35, 5 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
I see. This sounds a bit like WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. We need to go with what reliable sources say and avoid original research or promoting a specific point of view. Marquardtika (talk) 02:01, 5 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Orphaned references in Diane Harkey

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Diane Harkey's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "results":

  • From 2010 California State Assembly election: "November 2, 2010 General Election - Statement of Vote / Revised January 6, 2011" (PDF). Secretary of State of California. January 6, 2011. Archived from the original (PDF) on June 11, 2014. Retrieved November 1, 2012.
  • From 2022 Orange County Board of Supervisors election: "Current Election Results | OC Vote". ocvote.gov. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-20.
  • From 2008 California State Assembly election: "Statement of Vote: November 4, 2008, General Election" (PDF). Secretary of State of California. December 15, 2008. Archived from the original (PDF) on October 18, 2012. Retrieved May 6, 2009.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 11:11, 20 November 2022 (UTC)Reply