Talk:David Attias
Latest comment: 15 years ago by StradTrumpeter in topic Article Creation
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Article Creation
editI've attempted to be as unbiased as possible while also asserting the noteworthiness of this article. The subject's actions lead to widespread news and impacted the community where his actions took place. He is still noted there today.StradTrumpeter (talk) 18:27, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- I am not murder is enough to establish notability. I have changed the tag from a SD to a prod. ttonyb1 (talk) 19:39, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- Ttonyb1, I must respectfully disagree with you. I believe that the article, even as it is written now, meeting the requirement for notability. According to Wikipedia: "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article." ::I believe that it's coverage in several major news sources and one student newspaper satisfies the "significant coverage" requirement. Many of these articles do not merely describe the murders, but also discuss the subject of this article in depth. ::I believe that these sources meet the reliability criteria, as they are major news sources. (CBS, LA Times, etc) ::The sources are all secondary sources and are not affiated with the subject, so they meet the sources requirement. ::Please give additional details as to why you don't believe this article should exist.StradTrumpeter (talk) 19:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comments. Although I am not totally convinced, I have removed the Prod tag. Be sure to watch this page as someone else may have issues and feel stronger about the marking it. Good luck. ttonyb1 (talk) 19:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- Ttonyb1, I must respectfully disagree with you. I believe that the article, even as it is written now, meeting the requirement for notability. According to Wikipedia: "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article." ::I believe that it's coverage in several major news sources and one student newspaper satisfies the "significant coverage" requirement. Many of these articles do not merely describe the murders, but also discuss the subject of this article in depth. ::I believe that these sources meet the reliability criteria, as they are major news sources. (CBS, LA Times, etc) ::The sources are all secondary sources and are not affiated with the subject, so they meet the sources requirement. ::Please give additional details as to why you don't believe this article should exist.StradTrumpeter (talk) 19:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think this article meets basic notability criteria, and intend to nominate it for deletion if greater notability isn't demonstrated. Might refer to WP:BLP1E. The Isla Vista massacre article is certainly enough, and even that probably does not meet notability requirements. Avruch T 00:46, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I have added further information that makes a greater case for notability and would provide the basis for an expanded article should someone with more knowledge of the subject matter add to it. StradTrumpeter (talk) 03:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC)