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Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2017

Include missing link to the French Wikipedia page. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker

Anakin Skywalker Dark Vador 58.11.159.205 (talk) 02:38, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

@58.11.159.205: Where in the article would you like this added? SparklingPessimist ^{Scream at me!} 03:05, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 03:16, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Infobox listing different actors for Anakin and Vader?

Hey, umm... awkward question, but if we are going to mention both Shaw and Christensen in Episode VI as Anakin, shouldn't we list Prowse, Jones and Burtt as well, since it was (presumably?) Prowse in the suit when he killed the Emperor and Jones did say the "Help me take this mask off" line. Also, was that Prowse wearing a bald cap in Episode V? Are we trying to be comprehensive here? Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:16, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Sounds really over-detailed and will only serve to confuse the reader. Cnbrb (talk) 11:35, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Lord Darth Vader

Shouldn't it be Lord Darth Vader? Or is Darth a title like lord (like in Darth Sidious)? I remember the Emperor calls him Lord Vader in one of the movies.--2003:6F:8C6E:AF46:3C5D:5901:D6AB:841F (talk) 13:56, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Darth is a title used by the Sith, yes. See also Darth Maul and Darth Tyranus. – The Millionth One (talk) (contribs) 14:47, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

That appears to be a retroactive insertion into the lore. In the first film, Obi-Wan says "Darth Vader" was the name of "a young Jedi", and later in the same film addresses him as "Darth" twice. Theoretically, the latter can be squared with the later films' having "Darth" as a title used by Sith, except that no one ever addresses anyone as simply "Darth" after The Empire Strikes Back. This real-world context should probably be clarified, although the secondary source I checked is not the best... Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:59, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

His Name

I've heard both "Vader" is the Dutch for father, the river "Vardar" in Macedonia and "Vader" was the name of a high school classmate of Mr Lucas. Has this come up before? Is it true.Trish pt7 (talk) (talk) 23:21, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

There is also the family name De'Ath (De'ath Vader?) as well! Trish pt7 (talk) (talk) 23:30, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

. |Astrid Pethadone? .

Vader/vater is the Dutch word for father, yes, and Lucas did at one point go to school with a Gary Vader. And of course, there's the whole 'in-sidious' and 'in-vader' thing going on. As far as this applies to ol' Darthie, though: we don't know. I don't think Lucas has ever cited Gary Vader as the reason, so it's possible it's just a co-incidence (or something he vaguely recollected years later). Lucas has cited the Dutch word before, but only started doing so much later, and there's a lot of indication that Darth Vader was not originally planned to be Luke's father; given Lucas has flip-flopped on some other details around what the Star Wars saga was originally intended to be, there's fair reason to not take his words as exact truth, and a lot of sources treat this with a bit of doubt. – The Millionth One (talk) (contribs) 18:08, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Also know as Anakin Skywalker?

The opening sentence...

"Darth Vader, also known by his birth name Anakin Skywalker..."

...seems questionable to me. No one, as far as I know, refers to him as Anakin Skywalker, and in fact there are several occasions when it is clearly specified that Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker are considered to be distinctly different:

1. Obi Wan tells Luke that Darth Vader killed his father.

2. The Emperor refers to Luke as the son of Skywalker, not as your son.

3. Luke says "I've accepted the truth that you were once Anakin Skywalker, my father," to which Vader replies "that name no longer has any meaning for me".

There are other examples too, but no instances in which the guy in the big black suit is referred to as Anakin Skywalker. I think this should be changed from "also known by," to something like "Darth Vader, whose birth name was Anakin Skywalker..." FillsHerTease (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:39, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2018

I was hoping to put Darth Vader into Category:Fictional characters with borderline personality disorder Ryker11 (talk) 21:21, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. @Ryker11: We would need a source from canon to explicitly say that, or else we'd need a preponderance of scholarly-grade analyses to make the conclusion. —C.Fred (talk) 21:26, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Information innacuracy

"Darth Vader appears in seven of the nine live-action Star Wars films" doesn't appear to account for The star Wars Holiday Special, or Solo. Arctic Stalker (talk) 23:33, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

I have removed the "nine" so we don't have to keep updating the number each time Disney churns out another movie, and I have added a short mention of that Holiday Special *shudder*. Cnbrb (talk) 15:14, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

I want to bring back this article to GA or FA status

According to the good article criteria, criteria #6 suggests illustrating the article more. I have this perfect screenshot to put in the Television Series section of the article.

If anyone can give me permission to edit than I'll gladly add that screenshot from the Rebel's T.V. show, which will definitly enhance the aesthetics of the article...! Edit: Nevermind, I'm already autoconfirmed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaheonoToa (talk • contribs) 08:12, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Sam Sailor 12:22, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Per WP:Please don't shout, please use capital letters sparingly. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 12:34, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately your addition of a copyrighted image didn't last long. You can only use copyrighted images on Wikipedia if you can justify it - have a look at WP:FAIRUSE to find out more. Cnbrb (talk) 20:50, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Fictional character biography

So most fictional character pages/articles have something regarding their fictional history. This article could greatly benefit from such a section. It could span everything from the recently confirmed/canonized birth due to force manipulation from Emperor Sheev Palpatine / Darth Sidius, to his tenure as a Jedi and downfall into Darth Vader, and return to goodness right before his death. Worth mentioning is Qui-Gon's interpretation that Anakin was the 'Chosen One', while Sidius intended Vader to be the ultimate weapon/Sith apprentice.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 03:24, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

There is scope in articles for the profile of a fictional character, but it has to be fairly minimal. Wikipedia is written from a real-world perspective so the focus is naturally going to be on writing, production, portrayal etc. The risk of writing about the fictional backstory of any popular character in detail is that it takes an article in the opposite direction to this, to an in-universe perspective — see MOS:INUNIVERSE for an explanation of this. If you want to build up Vader's backstory as you describe, I recommend you add this to the Darth Vader article on Wookieepedia, a Star Wars wiki — it's very similar to Wikipedia, but has an in-universe focus. Cnbrb (talk) 09:48, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Retitling of the page

Shouldn't this page be titled Anakin Skywalker? The character's actual name is Anakin, while a redirect link could direct all searches for "Darth Vader" to this page. Anakin turned away from the dark side in the end, thus abandoning his Sith alter ego. What's the rebuttal against this, I wonder?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 03:24, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

As I see it, Wikipedia is always going to prefer more widely recognised names for article titles, as per WP:COMMON NAME. Darth Vader is a very widely recognised name, Anakin Skywalker less so (outside SW fandom). Not so much a rebuttal, just a common sense rationale. Cnbrb (talk) 10:32, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

See above, and keep in mind MOS:INUNIVERSE. UpdateNerd (talk) 12:11, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Darth as name not title

Why no mention of Obi-Wan using Darth as a name and not a title in the original Star Wars? Or have I missed that somewhere? LeapUK (talk) 08:40, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

If there is an analysis of this issue that can be cited from a reliable source, then it could be included. Cnbrb (talk) 13:09, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

The Secret History of Star Wars has some information. It might be worthwhile to create a section around the character's name, both involving its etymology and how "Darth" later evolved into a title for Sith Lords. UpdateNerd (talk) 13:13, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Sounds interesting. Of course, it's subject to interpretation. "Only a master of evil, Darth" could be a name, but equally Obi-Wan's words could be interpreted as referring to a title (perhaps in a sardonic way), as if he had said "Only a master of evil, General". I wonder if there is a clear record of Lucas's original intentions? Cnbrb (talk) 13:59, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

If I remember correctly from The Secret History (I listened to the audiobook), the author lists a few possible sources of inspiration for the name, and didn't find any indication that Darth was a title until the prequel trilogy entered production. Of course, in retrospect one could interpret Obi-Wan's line just as you said.

It's something I've been meaning to work on. If you can find any other sources that would be helpful, please share. Of the sources of inspiration, I think Kaminski mentions the well-known "dark father" interpration, plus a Gary Vader from Lucas' high school yearbook. :D UpdateNerd (talk) 14:32, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Gary Vader?? Cnbrb (talk)

You read that right, although I don't think it's worth mentioning (very speculative on Kaminski's part). Anyways, @LeapUK: I added the information about the character's name in the article. UpdateNerd (talk) 16:01, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for that Nerd. LeapUK (talk) 12:41, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Father Revealed

Information to be added or removed:

 Sheev Palpatine (Darth Sidious) has been revealed to be the father of Darth Vader in "Darth Vader (2017) #25"

Explanation of issue: Previously unknown

References supporting change:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Vader:_Dark_Lord_of_the_Sith_25:_Fortress_Vader,_Part_VII 

https://www.cbr.com/marvel-darth-vader-anakin-skywalker-father/ https://comicbook.com/starwars/2018/12/21/star-wars-darth-vader-anakin-skywalker-father-palpatine/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by JimBob2u (talk • contribs) 00:07, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

67.247.138.56 (talk)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  Spintendo  16:48, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

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• Vader at Dragoncon 2010.jpg

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 07:21, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Possible GA restart?

Hi, all. I'm still planning to get the article to GA status at some point later on. Also, we can possibly get it to FA with the ultimate goal of putting it on the main page in time for either the upcoming 35th anniversary of The Empire Strikes Back or the 15th anniversary of Revenge of the Sith, both of which will take place next year. Unfortunately, there may be some issues in this article such as the citation needed tags, and all dead citations must be replaced with archive links. Thoughts? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:24, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Conciseness in the appearance section

While I agree with most of the the recent changes to the appearance section, some of them might need to be reviewed here in order to avoid a potential edit war and be trimmed for conciseness. For example, I think it's important to note that Vader was mortally wounded after throwing down the Emperor; the means (the Force lightning), not so much. Also, in Revenge of the Sith, its mentioned that Anakin was reluctant to execute Dooku. Those are just some of my thoughts. Any ideas on how we can trim it for conciseness without sacrificing any crucial plot details? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:55, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Objective plot elements that are not overly detailed are fine to include IMO. Mentioning that Vader was being electrocuted by the Emperor's Force lighting is somewhat relevant and might help remind someone of the scene. On the other hand, stating Anakin's 'reluctance' is too subjective a description unless sourced. UpdateNerd (talk) 23:19, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Gotcha. Is Anakin killing Dooku in cold blood also subjective unless its sourced? Also, which of the other plot elements (i.e. subjective statements) need to be trimmed? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:21, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

The only relevant thing IMO is that he kills Dooku at Palpatine's behest. I'm not sure which others; there are so many subjective areas so I'm assuming good faith on edits and planning to review them when I have time... UpdateNerd (talk) 23:34, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

"Last appearance"

In the sidebar, it says Vader's last appearance was in Rogue One in 2016. While that was his last theatrical film appearance, he has appeared more recently in countless other media (books, comics, games, etc.) For example, Marvel Comics' "Target Vader", of which the first issue was release on July 3, 2019. Of course, changing it to other media and not just films would be very hard to keep up with, but I feel like it would be misleading to say his last appearance was Rogue One. Whotookthatguy (talk) 14:42, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

I think we have to accept that Wikipedia's focus is theatrical films in the cinema. Most readers will assume this is a reference to cinema appearances anyway, not spin-off media, so I don't see it as misleading. It would be pointless trying to update it with this week's comic issue featuring Vader. Cnbrb (talk) 14:57, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Another option is to not bother using this field. The character will always be popping up in different ways. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 15:41, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Probably not a bad idea. Cnbrb (talk) 15:59, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

"Dark Father" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Dark Father. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:25, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Dark Vador

In France, due to a dubbing error, the character is called Dark Vador

Source : https://hitek.fr/actualite/erreurs-traduction-star-wars-trilogie_7777 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB10:82E3:3C00:F974:91C0:8944:E32F (talk) 14:11, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Non-defining categories

This article has been attracting some highly questionable categories lately. In line with WP:OVERCAT, I have removed some of the sillier ones, but they start creeping back in. The categories listed below are not suitable as they are Non-defining characteristics of Darth Vader. Yes, young Anakin built a podracer in Episode I, but Vader has never been described as "Dark Lord of the Sith and aerospace engineer". Same goes for the other categories.

"Categorization by non-defining characteristics should be avoided." - WP:NONDEFINING

• Category:Fictional aerospace engineers
• Category:Fictional characters with borderline personality disorder (!!)
• Category:Fictional child soldiers
• Category:Fictional defectors
• Category:Fictional regents
• Category:Fictional aviators
• Category:Fictional generals
• Category:Fictional ghosts
• Category:Fictional mechanical engineers
• Category:Fictional racing drivers
• Category:Fictional slaves
• Category:Fictional soldiers
• Category:Fictional war veterans
• Category:Video game bosses

Many of these nonsequitur categories get added to other Star Wars character articles too. I was going to call it "cruft", but I remembered it's not allowed any more in case someone's feelings get hurt, so I'll just go with WP:TOOMUCH. Please stop adding them. Thanks. Cnbrb (talk) 09:34, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

This page is inaccurate to Darth Vader

A good amount of this talks about Anakin Skywaker. Under full name, Occupation, affiliations. It includes things about Anakin Skywaker. Although it's confusing, Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader are 2 separate people. You can't count them as the same CaptainFishie (talk) 09:00, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Whilst I agree with you that the two characters are fundamentally different individuals, the consensus on Wikipedia has been, for the longest time, to keep the two characters in the same article space. It has been discussed and voted upon multiple times (as can be seen in the Archives). --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 15:50, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

And, at the end of the day, they are the same entity, with the same past, etc. Shrekxy64. 21:18, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

What?

I made an edit recently that changed the misspelling of anakin and the use of the name 'Starkiller" to the correct "skywalker", and it has been changed back. Can whoever did it justify? Shrekxy64. 21:00, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Not the reverter, but I can comment on the likely reason. Various early drafts of the first film had the characters be named Luke and Annikin Starkiller, rather than their names in the films themselves. These drafts can have the characters be noticeably distinct from their final incarnations (e.g. at one point Luke was an old general), so I'd get the distinction intended if so.

Still, given that the text doesn't really establish what/who Annikin or Starkiller are at that point, I think the sentence could probably use some rewriting for clarity. Alternatively, I'm leaning towards it being redundant to what's already in the "Concept and writing", so I wouldn't be opposed to removing it (and probably stuffing the "Lucas has said..." sentence at the end of Concept's second paragraph). I'll probably make that change myself shortly. – The Millionth One (talk) (contribs) 23:02, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't mind it's removal either, but I would wait to see what some other editors say. Shrekxy64. 18:47, 19 February 2020

I see you went ahead and removed it. I was thinking, however, that it might have a place in the article. I still want to see what others say, though. I'll wait to revert. Shrekxy64. 21:32, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Unprotect

This page has been semi-protected for 9 years, which is long enough to see if whatever vandalism was happening back in 2011 is still going on. I wanted to add this citation http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.psychres.2009.03.031 to the place where it says Mr. Vader might be suffering from borderline personality disorder, since right now only a pop-science aggregator is cited. Maybe someone else can add it. 2601:648:8202:96B0:386A:A40C:EBB1:ACC0 (talk) 00:06, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Probably protected for 9 years for a good reason - such as IP editors attempting to add remotely peripheral opinion pieces. This is a piece of conjectural writing, not central to the subject of Darth Vader or a defining characteristic, and would add nothing to this article. Perhaps you should start a blog to further this interpretation of the character. It could be very enjoyable for you to research and write. Cnbrb (talk) 00:31, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2020

Maxkelley2003 (talk) 22:10, 24 April 2020 (UTC)May I please be allowed to edit this page?

@Maxkelley2003: Welcome to Wikipedia! You will be able to edit this page once your account is at least four days old and you have made at least ten edits to Wikipedia. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 23:54, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Vader's rank in the EU

In the Expanded Universe, Darth Vader wields unlimited power over all the aspects of the apparatus of the Imperial Military as "Supreme Commander". I don't know if it's still Canon, but since the page contains some EU info (such as his family tree in Legends), shouldn't his rank be put as well, as Dark Lord of the Sith is not an official title within the hegemony of the Galactic Empire. The Ring-forger (talk) 08:39, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Rank of Cal Kestis in the Star Wars:Fallen Order

Most recently, Vader makes a cameo appearance in the final mission of Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order, after the main antagonist, the Second Sister, is defeated. After Vader kills her for her failure to retrieve a Jedi Holocron, the protagonist change Padawan Cal Kestis to Jedi Knight Cal Kestis.

In one of the game's cutscenes before embarking on the final mission, Jedi Master Cere Junda (who rescues Cal initially) knights him in a ceremonial fashion while travelling to the Inquisitorius Planet. Rahulsai23 (talk) 17:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. In addition, this appears to be non-particularly interesting in-universe information... RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 17:50, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

In 14 BBY, prior to his mission to infiltrate Fortress Inquisitorius, Jedi Padawan Cal Kestis was knighted by now former Jedi Knight Junda, when she used a lightsaber from an Inquisitor. The ceremony concluded with the following quote: "By the right of the Council, by the will of the Force, Cal Kestis. Rise, Jedi Knight." Rahulsai23 (talk) 06:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. This is not a reliable source; see WP:UGC specifically. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 14:15, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

This video (Redacted) shows the sequence where Cal Kestis is knighted. Rahulsai23 (talk) 17:52, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

@Rahulsai23: I've again moved your newest comment to the end. Please don't insert comments in front of replies I've made, making it appear as if I've replied to a different comment than I actually did. See WP:THREAD for more information about that. I've also removed the link per WP:COPYVIOEL and will leave a comment on your talk page about that. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 18:08, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for the mistake on the comments, this is actually my first Wiki Edit. Is quoting an actual entry on Wikipedia on the actual game Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order okay? The Plot section mentions specifically "After Cere reassumes her status as a Jedi and grants Cal the rank of Jedi Knight, the pair infiltrate the Fortress Inquisitorius on Dathomir's oceanic moon Nur."

References

 Not done: Sadly, no, Wikipedia is not a reliable source. RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 03:50, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Merchandise

If anyone would like to add a bit about Vader-related merchandise, it would be an interesting addition to the article.

Someone recently added an image of an action figure, which was completely unrelated to the article text. For that reason, I had begun a short section on merchandise, mentioning the original 1977 action figure (the first ever) with the intention of adding more. Sadly that section has been instantly deleted, because apparently mentioning that figure is giving WP:UNDUE weight. So if anyone would like to write research and something general about the production of Vader-related merchandise over the years as a significant part of the cultural impact, but without actually mentioning any specific examples, if would be an interesting addition to the article. Cnbrb (talk) 11:00, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Picture

I think, this is the best cosplay photo of Darth Vader. --Indoor-Fanatiker (talk) 03:41, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Change of page name

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker at the beginning and the end of his story. I move this page be renamed to either "Darth Vader (Anakin Skywalker)" or "Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader)." Jada Feiri (talk) 07:24, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose. While well-intentioned, I think this would instead de-clarify. There is probably an opportunity to add hat text or to move up the "why Anakin Skywalker redirects here" in the lede, though. I don't see this proposed article title format working well for comparable examples/aliases/identities, e.g. Voldemort/Tom Riddle, Sidious/Palpatine, etc. etc. --EEMIV (talk) 17:04, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Also oppose for the same reasons as EEMIV. Vader has the far stronger cultural significance, as compared to his prequel identity. Whether or not he was "truly" Anakin in canon isn't relevant to the titling of a real-world article. UpdateNerd (talk) 10:32, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Canon-wise, he died as Anakin Skywalker, which was his entire arc and point of his character, so I believe just for correctness and factual accuracy, this page should be renamed to Anakin Skywalker. Charizardmatok (talk) 10:17, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Oppose - this has been discussed and voted on multiple times. -- JascaDucato (talk | contributions) 12:26, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Opppose - he's much better known as Darth Vader and he was Darth Vader in the original (first) trilogy. In the context of both the fictional universe and the real world, he's been mostly associated with being Darth Vader ever since the first Star Wars movie came out in 1977 and he is Darth Vader in the original story. The prequel trilogy (when he's Anakin Skywalker) didn't come out until 1999 and serves as the origin story for Darth Vader. He only became Anakin Skywalker when the prequel (second) trilogy came out, which have been positioned (in both the fictional universe and real world) as the prologue to the original story but otherwise has mostly been Darth Vader even in the real world and pop culture. Moving this page would just make things more clunky and wouldn't be any better in terms of correctness and factual accuracy. Someone searching Anakin Skywalker will already be redirected to this page and clarification that he was once Anakin Skywalker is already stated in the lead section and throughout the article.—Mythdon (talk • contribs) 14:31, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

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What about C. Andrew Nelson?

He claims to have logged more time in the suit than Anyone else? Why is he not listed as a portraying actor ? 2601:204:100:C090:8050:9504:5A80:39E6 (talk) 00:26, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Most likely because nobody has been able to provide a citation for this. -- JascaDucato (talk | contributions) 13:13, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

"Draft:Force choke" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Draft:Force choke and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 25#Draft:Force choke until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:22, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Sith Mentorship Tree

Despite there being a link to the Sith article, there is only the Jedi mentorship tree under mentorship trees. Can someone please add the Sith one in addition to the Jedi one since the article is clearly intended to have both shown. 216.165.95.159 (talk) 12:49, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Daath means knowledge in hebrew

Daath means knowledge in hebrew : https://biblehub.com/hebrew/1847.htm 79.17.211.53 (talk) 00:38, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Revealing Vader’s identity as Anakin Skywalker straight away

I’m concerned that revealing Darth Vader’s identity as Anakin Skywalker ruins the big revelation of Luke’s father to those who haven’t yet watched Star Wars.

I’d like to propose that we remove the name Anakin Skywalker in the first paragraph.

Thanks :) HelloItsKane (talk) 13:27, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

We don't hide WP:SPOILERS here. Darth Vader as Luke's father was revealed about 43 years ago. It's a big part of pop culture and is unavoidable. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:03, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Dang is that movie really that old? Man time flies.. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:04, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Insert a link for Hayden Christensen

Hi, the main article is locked for other unknown editors.Please insert the symbols [[]] for Hayden Christensen as a link to the infobox about Darth Vader. Yours sincerely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.87.80.173 (talk) 18:15, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

[Hayden Christensen]

[Gene Bryant] 47.157.211.151 (talk) 10:24, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Darth Vader 47.156.132.79 (talk) 09:20, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2023

In “portrayed by” Dimitrious Bistrevsky[1][d] is spelled incorrectly. It is Dmitrious Bistrevsky as seen on the cited IMDb page. 47.214.162.237 (talk) 22:49, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done M.Bitton (talk) 00:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Edit request: Sloppy transcription in »Concept and writing«

End of paragraph IV, text as it is now: »Hayden Christensen spoke about Darth Vader's role in the six-film saga: "He believes he's the Chosen One. He doesn't do bad things knowing that they have a negative impact. So now there's a naiveté in him that doesn't it was there before. And it makes it more human in a lot of ways."[35]«

This transcription is not quite correct, especially »that doesn't it was there before« doesn't make sense and isn't what Christensen says in the video [citation 35, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTfUCdrYcns]. Starting at 13:48, he says (a few "errs" and repeated words not transcribed):

"He believes that he's the Chosen One. He's not doing wrong things knowing that it's having a negative impact. So there is that sort of naivety to him that there wasn't there before. And it makes him more human in a lot of ways."

The second »there« in the third sentence also should be left out, IMO. He says it, but it doesn't make much sense: "So there is that sort of naivety to him that [there] wasn't there before".

(And, of course, I don't care whether it's spelled naivety or naiveté.) 2A02:8071:881:CA40:0:0:0:5718 (talk) 22:05, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done Tollens (talk) 07:57, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

"Takeshi Martinez" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Darth Vader vs Anakin Skywalker

Look, I understand that Darth Vader is the most iconic version of the character however shouldn't this article be titled 'Anakin Skywalker', as that was the name he was born into and died under. Darth Vader was really just an alias. 86.163.97.128 (talk) 13:31, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

WP:COMMONNAME. You're also using an in-universe rationale. Wikipedia is written from a real world perspective. ~~ DocNox (talk) 17:26, 1 December 2023 (UTC)