Talk:Cocooning (behaviour)

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Pincrete in topic No source for coinage date

Need a separate article on cocooning of aircraft

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As done to protect from weather/corrosion when laid up - as in De_Havilland_Comet, and [1] and then disambiguate between these two and Cocooning_(immunization) - Rod57 (talk) 20:44, 24 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Discussion of New Draft

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As part of a discussion to possibly merge this article into Faith Popcorn, I created a new, much expanded proposed draft of this article as an alternative. I have a WP:COI as a paid consultant to Faith Popcorn, so cannot make any changes without the review of other editors. The following discussion with the editor who proposed the merger, from the user space for the draft, requests some modifications, which I made, and gives me approval to publish the modified draft here, instead of the merger.BC1278 (talk) 15:40, 19 September 2016 (UTC)BC1278 ---Reply

This looks like a good article and I am content for you to publish it as-is. However, I do have some thoughts which you may wish to consider, or I am happy to edit here or in article namespace:

  • Most of the discussion and references seem to assume that cocooning is something one does at home, but the introduction doesn't even mention the home.
  • The "Popcorn Report" section has no citations. And have restaurant sales actually declined?
  • The focus on dictionary usage seems a bit defensive to me and is anyway not the primary issue in establishing WP:NEO. IMHO it would be better to drop the section.
  • I'm not sure that Success Intelligence counts as a reliable source.

Regards, Vectro (talk) 20:01, 17 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

  • Home now mentioned in intro.
  • Added citation to book. Rephrased one sentence to make clear that she was citing declining restaurant sales from the vantage point of her 1991 book. She cites the stats in the book. But I think it's outside the scope of this article to figure out what happened in the 25 years since. However, I do cite the author who in his book says in 1997 she was wrong because outdoor activities had grown substantially.
  • Removed dictionary section. Added just a bit of it to the History.
  • Removed sentence about Success Intelligence, but left it as a source in the lead to support the idea that cocooning concept is used in self-help (source should be acceptable in this usage because it is used only to establish itself, not to establish other facts.)

Best, BC1278 (talk) 20:41, 17 September 2016 (UTC)BC1278Reply

Looks good to me, deploy at will. BTW it looks like your original search queries are showing up in your Google Books links — not a problem from my perspective, but I thought you'd like to know. Vectro (talk)

No source for coinage date

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In researching this term, there seems to be no clear support for 1981 as the coinage date, as stated in this article. Faith Popcorn's website states "Faith Popcorn’s TrendBank captured the imagination of clients, consumers and the press when Faith coined the term Cocooning to describe the cultural current she saw emerging in the late 1980s." (https://www.faithpopcorn.com/about-us/trendbank.html) The earliest publication seems to be 1986 (New Yorker article in the references), and Merriam-Webster online also cites the earliest use as 1986. If the date of 1981 is correct, it would be great to have a source to corroborate it. The Raven's Librarian (talk) 18:54, 23 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

The 1981 date is in the USA Today article cited as the source. [2] ----BC1278
Oxford and several other dictionaries say that use to describe a kind of stay-at-home-behaviour, is solely a US usage. Using the term in the more general sense, to mean wrapped up in a comfortable or metaphorically protective layer, is as old as the hills and presumably the root for this usage. Pincrete (talk) 14:54, 26 April 2020 (UTC)Reply