Talk:Chalk's International Airlines

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Donald Albury in topic One of the world's first international airlines?

Untitled edit

WP does not cover breaking news WP:NOT, so I have reverted the edits by 192.28.2.41 until the incident can be included in a proper encyclopic manner. -- Dalbury(Talk) 21:34, 19 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Chalk's return edit

Chalk's is not flying anywhere for now. As it is not known when or if Chalk's will resume service, any discussion of it in the article would be speculation. -- Donald Albury 01:20, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Contradictions due to being out of date edit

This article needs to be consistently brought up to date. Because various parts are accurate to variously 2005, 2006 and 2007 (nothing more recent than that) it contradicts itself in saying that it operates scheduled flights, charter flights only, or no flights at all. Thryduulf (talk) 09:56, 23 April 2010 (UTC)Reply


Check your facts!

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19770526&id=MicxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=XgIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3503,5049203 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.248.188.89 (talk) 07:12, 23 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Air & Space article edit

I updated a good portion of the history, but it can be expanded further with material from an Air & Space magazine article from 2003; I don't have time to go through it at the moment.- choster (talk) 16:33, 26 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Fleet edit

"As of March 2007 the Chalk's International Airlines fleet comprised... 4 Mallards (5 originally delivered but one crashed)". Yes, you have reliable source to state this, but not sure if it's true. There are two crashes mentioned in "Incidents and accidents" chapter, but no data on the aircraft involved in the first of them. O.K., just like in the second one, it was Turbo Mallard (c/n J-51, N150FB), registered to Flying Boat Inc. - which is Chalk's. For more information about this accident, see MIA94FA097 on the NTSB web site at http://ntsb.gov
In total, of 59 Mallards produced 18 were operated by Chalk's: J-4 (N83781), J-5 (N168W), J-6 (N7306 Island of Cat Cay), J-9 (N123DF City of Nassau), J-10 (N26DF), J-13 (N2442H), J-19 (N176W, later N95DF), J-27 (N2969 Sunset Express), J-28 (N2970), J-30 (N630SS, later N130FB Paradise Islander), J-36 (N2974 Spirit of Miami), J-38 (N7338 City of Miami), J-42 (N51151 The Keys Explorer), J-43 (N3010 Out Island Express, later City of Bimini), J-44 (N1208 Pride of Bimini), J-51 (N150FB), J-55 (N73556 City of Miami), J-56 (N7356 The Cat Cayer) - data collected by Geoff Godall at http://www.goodall.com.au/grumman-amphibians/grummanmallard.pdf
As you can see, of these 18 aircraft 11 had names given by Chalk's, and at least in the case of J-51 the aircraft was shipped to Chalk's inventory but crashed too fast to got name.193.93.217.17 (talk) 15:20, 4 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

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The end of Chalk edit

This article made it sound like the company didn't die a natural death, but was murdered by the government. Could anyone with more knowledge add to the article and give a more in-depth explanation of what happened? 68.173.61.38 (talk) 19:50, 16 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Prohibition Operations edit

> During Prohibition, Chalk's was a major source of alcohol smuggled from the Bahamas to the United States.[3][4][5]

None of these references mention the Prohibition at all. I did find another mention that Chalk's customer base included 'rumrunners and their pursuing lawment' at http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/flying-boat-inc-chalk-s-ocean-airways-history/ but no further detail. Does anyone have any source for this at all? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AkaSylvia (talkcontribs) 13:46, 8 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

History edit

"started ad-hoc charter operations as the Red Arrow Flying Service in 1917 flying a single Stinson Voyager equipped with floats"

The Stinson Voyager did not exist in 1917.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinson_Voyager

--118.211.84.225 (talk) 06:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

The cited source implies that Chalk was flying a Stinson Voyager in 1917. That particular detail is not vital to the article, so I will remove it. If anyone can find a reliable source on what plane Chalk flew in the early days, please add that information to the article, with a citation. - Donald Albury 00:05, 13 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

One of the world's first international airlines? edit

I read that Chalk's was founded before KLM or Qantas? Grassynoel (talk) 17:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

See the last paragraph of the History section. - Donald Albury 17:57, 10 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
A blog posting at https://web.archive.org/web/20110907112640/http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/airline_liveries/110594 (the site is now blacklisted on Wikipedi) used to be cited in the article as a source for the claim to be the oldest scheduled airline, but it doesn't qualify as a reliable source. - Donald Albury 18:16, 10 January 2022 (UTC)Reply