Talk:Carl Countryman

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I started this article because I saw there was an Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional sound production with a request to start the article and I happen to know a bit about Countryman.

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because Countryman is a very notable figure in the world of sound engineering -- so much so that the WikiProject had a request for an article by him. This wikieditor should consult the head of the Professional Audio Engineering Wikiproject before deleting what was an hour of real work for me. They flagged countryman as a notable figure needing an article. I was simply starting a stub with the resources available to me. This is like killing an embryo for the crime of not yet being able to survive on its own.

Already, Countryman's work has been recorded historically in several areas for his work with the psychedelic scene in the 1960s. Clearly he is part of the historical record of his field decades later.

I am also in the process of trying to locate awards Countryman won for his engineering to demonstrate his importance to the engineering historical record. Lirani (talk) 01:39, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because Carl Countryman founded Countryman and Associates which manufactured industry standard active direct boxes and small head worn microphones. His active direct boxes were among the first professionally manufactured active direct boxes in the professional sound industry --Robert.Harker (talk) 01:41, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Quadrasonic microphone

... mentioned here for example. Andreas JN466 09:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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I just want to reiterate the importance of Carl Countryman to the early development of modern sound production. I was a tenant of Carl's for five years occupying half of his business's building, where we built a recording studio under Carl's guidance. He was a very private man, and hence his involvement with bands like the grateful dead and Neil young is not well known. He described some of the technical issues encountered in building the grateful dead's wall of sound but would always insist that his consultations not be made public. Perhaps it was due to his desire to make a bigger splash in the commercial sound field and concerns that the counter-culture affiliations wouldn't play well with the networks and the bay area's old school electronic giants like Ampex and hp or the music industry in general. We used to speculate the be WAS the mysterious "Bear" of grateful dead lore before that identity was attached to Owsley. Still, his innovation and expertise in the practical implementation of electronic audio solutions was unparalleled, and I know that the grateful dead and Owsley relied heavily on his advice in building the wall of sound. What kills me is that even though he talked a lot about that system, he never even mentioned his role in developing the piano pickups. I always had the impression that the vocal microphone configuration was also his doing so he may have just considered the piano pickups as a minor part of the same thing. That the other players in the dead's technical crew are given credit for this may just be in error. Hopefully, I'll get back here and provide a more substantive narrative about Carl - I just have to give it some thought. We rented space from him from 1980 through 1985. He suggested we created a trough of sand and set sand-filled stud walls resting in the channel when we built our drum booth. When we moved out, we had to tear everything else out,c, but he wanted to keep that drum booth to test his mics. His super flat tiny microphones are phenomenal, and his direct boxes were the industry standard from the beginning.- ziphler 21:55, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Great story! Carl was always a very interesting and complex person.

Wikipedia has a hard policy of WP:No original research, which means that Wikipedia cannot be the place to publish new information that the public has never seen. A book or magazine or similar reliable platform is the place where you would want to publish first, and after that, Wikipedia can summarize the story. "Original research" is expected of regular writers, but encyclopedia writers are forbidden it. Binksternet (talk) 23:48, 23 July 2020 (UTC)