Talk:Caracal Battalion

Latest comment: 3 years ago by ChiXiStigma in topic Reason for choice of Caracal as mascot?


First combat engagement on Sep 21, 2012 -- JewishPress.com article quotes

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“Suddenly we heard over the com system a female soldier yelling ‘They’re shooting at me, they’re shooting at us.’ I said the driver – ‘Take us to her as fast as you can, and while he’s driving, I’m thinking I have no idea what I’m going to see. We all had no idea what we’re going to see, really. It was the first encounter with terrorists for me and for the battalion.”

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According to a report in Kol Israel Radio Monday morning, a large contingency of troops spent more than an hour searching for that other female soldier, who had given the original alert. They feared the worst – that she had been abducted by another team of terrorists. In the end it turned out that she had been hiding in perfect silence in the bushes nearby.

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According to the Kol Israel report, the female soldier who hid in the bushes admitted that she was afraid to open fire in order not to become a target for terrorists.

It has also been reported that the brigade commander interrogating the female soldier told her she did not act as befits a warrior. “You were scared, ran away and did not seek to engage the enemy,” he said.

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This is a direct quote from the Jewish Press article by Tibbi Singer published on Sep. 24, 2012 entitled "One Female Warrior Excels during Fire Exchange, as Another Is Shamed". Here is a link. One reference to this source has been blanket reverted once before. Please don't delete delete reliably sourced content again, as it is in violation of the Arbitration guidelines and other Wikipedia policies. Thank you. Vintovka Dragunova (talk) 03:45, 4 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Addendum: the article uses the verbiage "verbally disciplined for cowardice"; the above source uses the words "shamed" in the title, and "brigade commander [...] told her she did not act as befits a warrior", "[was] scared", and "ran away" in the text. If you feel the article wording is inaccurate to the source, please indicate so here so it can be discussed. Vintovka Dragunova (talk) 04:00, 4 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
The original contribution contained patently false information unsupported by the source, such as the "one female Caracal killed in the initial contact". Your current version is better, but I am not convinced that the words "The unit's first combat engagement" are accurate, the source says only "the first combat encounter of Cpl. S. and her comrades". Marokwitz (talk) 07:14, 4 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Reason for choice of Caracal as mascot?

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I just learned about this battalion and was curious about the name. The official page on the IDF site for the battalion only states that the caracal is the mascot animal, but provides no rationale for the choice of the mascot/name.

I came here to find more details, and the current rationale given sounds good, but the (archived) linked Honolulu Zoo page doesn’t state that both sexes of the caracal “have the same appearance”, and it certainly doesn’t have any details about this IDF battalion.

I did a quick search via Google and failed to find any sites that supported what is written in this article, except for sites that scrape Wikipedia or replicate Wikipedia’s data in general (e.g military.wikia.org/wiki/Caracal_Battalion ).

If anyone ever finds an actual source for why the IDF chose the Caracal as the mascot and name for this battalion please update the article and leave me a message here! ChiXiStigma (talk) 21:09, 30 May 2021 (UTC)Reply