Talk:Caleb Grimshaw

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The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 14:25, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that the Caleb Grimshaw sank after catching on fire, with the loss of at least 90 of the 457 people on board? Source: https://www.newyorkalmanack.com/2023/01/migrants-at-sea-deadly-voyages-to-new-york/, https://www.liverpool.ac.uk/~cmi/books/emigrant/calebG.html
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  • Comment: 5th DYK nomination, my QPQ is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:1893-S_Morgan_dollar

Created by Annwfwn (talk). Self-nominated at 21:16, 22 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Caleb Grimshaw; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Article is new enough and long enough. What makes this a reliable source, or the people quoted therein? I don't see 1848 there, nor the posthumous naming. Wonder if we should include Hoxie's cowardice somehow. Source text sometimes pretty similar to article text, but I don't think it crosses into plagiarism or copyvio. AGFing on some offline sources. Where does the information in the infobox come from? About the hook, I think it should be "sank" and "at least 90". QPQ is OK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 06:46, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: What makes this a reliable source, or the people quoted therein? Thank you, the link was incorrect and I fixed it. I waffled on this one since since it's a family geneology website but everything was sourced and it had links which led me to many of my other sources. I did try to double source everything from this website. This is the correct link.

OK, but I don't see what makes that website a reliable source. Is there an About Us page somewhere? Who is the author of the website? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:14, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Wonder if we should include Hoxie's cowardice somehow. I agree, I can work on that.

Where does the information in the infobox come from? Everything in the infobox is also in the text sourced. Should I source the infobox too?

About the hook, I think it should be "sank" and "at least 90". I like that better, fixed. Annwfwn (talk) 12:39, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

As far as I can see, the infobox text isn't present in the article text? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:08, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: my vision isn't great. What specific info isn't in the text but is in the infobox? I did doublecheck, MOS:INFOBOXCITE says it doesn't have to be sourced as long as the relevant text has a citation. Thanks! Annwfwn (talk)

The tonnage, draught and length data. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:14, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: 2nd sentence under construction. I did go ahead and modify them to say actual units of measurements vs the ' often used in feet.

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per the source reliability thing. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

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