Talk:Boxer at Rest

Greek or Roman?

Is it Greek bronze or a Roman bronze copy of an originally Greek sculpture? Chrisrus (talk) 05:35, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Does anyone know this? Why is it classified as Greek if it was found in Rome? Barjimoa (talk) 19:27, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Title of this page

This is not the correct title for this page. In English it is often called "The Boxer at Rest" (see the refs), or "Seated Boxer". If it's going to be have Quirinal in its name (and I think this is just a mistaken translation from another language), it should be "The Boxer of the Quirinal". Note that the German ref also uses the article: Die Bronzen vom Quirinal and the Italian wiki page uses it too: il Pugile del Quirinale but that's an alternative name; the main title is The Boxer at Rest. The Quirinal hill is referred to with the article in English, like the other hills of Rome: the Capitoline, the Palatine, etc.

Any objections to the move to The Boxer at Rest with references to other titles?

- Eponymous-Archon (talk) 22:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Can you cite that? Chrisrus (talk) 07:55, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Here are the links to the refs I made, which are in the article:

• Italian wikipedia page entitled "Boxer at Rest" (translated into English).
• "Apollonius's Boxer at Rest". Smarthistory at Khan Academy.
• Sean Hemingway, "The Boxer: an ancient masterpiece comes to the Met", also calls it "The Boxer at Rest", for example in fig. 1.

If you have access, search for it on ArtStor too, and you'll find him called the "Seated Boxer" or (once) "Pugilist in Repose".

Note too though that it just isn't good English to omit the article before "Quirinal", even if the more proper name isn't used (which it should be).

- Eponymous-Archon (talk) 13:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Jerry Saltz's Reference to Goya

The hyperlink regarding Jerry Saltz's comparison of the statue to a Goya work takes you to Goya's painting The Colossus, whilst I can't find the original article by Saltz I suspect it's much more likely he is referring to Goya's Seated Giant which is similar compositionally and in which you can actually see the giant's face. I feel the link should be updated accordingly. Can anyone disprove this? 109.246.48.120 (talk) 17:35, 8 December 2021 (UTC) Z

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• Boxer of Quirinal (Mys from Taranto) - Lateral View.jpg

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