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Disambiguate BlackBerry Smartphones from BlackBerry LtdEdit

Hello, I manage BlackBerry's SEO programs and we are hoping to change the title of the BlackBerry page to BlackBerry Smartphones. We also want to change the title of BlackBerry Limited page to BlackBerry. The goal is to help the world understand that BlackBerry is the name of a company, not just the name of legacy product. We have tried to do this ourselves but it doesn't take. Any advice from you all? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbryson-blackberry (talkcontribs) 19:29, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 9 October 2019Edit

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 19:49, 16 October 2019 (UTC)



BlackBerryBlackBerry Smartphones – We are hoping to change the title of the BlackBerry page to BlackBerry Smartphones. We also want to change the title of BlackBerry Limited page to BlackBerry. The goal is to help the world understand that BlackBerry is the name of a company, not just the name of legacy smartphone product.. Kbryson-blackberry (talk) 17:22, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose (some of the products have not been phones, and the uppercase "Smartphones" is awkward), but adding a parenthetical disambiguator might be reasonable. —BarrelProof (talk) 23:20, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose No real rationale provided to why this should be done. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:56, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Rationale: The primary subject of the BlackBerry page is the line of smartphone devices and services formerly sold by BlackBerry Ltd. The term BlackBerry is the parent brand mark for all products and services sold by BlackBerry Ltd and more often refers to the company itself rather than solely the line of smartphone devices. As owners of the Trademark BlackBerry we are the appropriate authority to request the page be renamed as requested. We appreciate your support as we transition our business away from our legacy products. Kbryson-blackberry (talk) 20:23, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Virtually no one refers to these devices as "BlackBerry Smartphones", the WP:COMMONNAME is simply BlackBerry. I appreciate your branding concerns, but Wikipedia goes with the commonly used term over the official one, and trademark owners have no special say here. - MrOllie (talk) 20:57, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Support but redirect BlackBerry to Blackberry (disambiguation). No clear WP:PTOPIC between the smartphone line and the company. "BlackBerry Smartphones" is not an especially common term, but it's acceptable under WP:NATURAL. feminist (talk) 04:19, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Marketing request. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:34, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

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About encryption historyEdit

I just found this history of why encryption has been added to BlackBerry devices:

Little known history: BlackBerry 'became encrypted' because back in the days when it was really just a 'pager with email' - North American carriers (channel partners) were actually reading BB executives emails during negotiations (!!!). BB discovered this and decided to start with the encryption. Seriously - the first 'illegal' act was by BB customers/channel partners!

Needs a more trustable source and a confirmation. -- Olivier Mengué |  13:44, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

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