Talk:Berengaria of Navarre

Royal house: All the other queens of England or duchesses (Matilda of Saxony, for example) have their house that they became part of upon marriage. Berengaria was married to Richard I KING OF ENGLAND, so please do not remove this note in the biography, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.245.230.23 (talk) 10:43, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

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I do believe that Berengaria of Navarre held the fortress of Chateau-du-Loir as part of her dowary until she exchanged the castle and lordship with Guillaume des Roches in or around 1201 for certain specific rights in the city of Le Mans. Eventually, these rights translated into an almost complete lordship of the town (split though with the bishop of Mans, the vicomte de Beaumont, and the hereditary seneschals, the Maucien family). Dragon1 01:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Unique queen

On a trip around Limassol castle, it was claimed that she was the only English Queen Consort not to marry in England. If that's the case, is it worth mentioning?

Apepper (talk) 21:39, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

It isn't true - they might have said she was the only English queen consort never to set foot in England, which may be true. Deb (talk) 11:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

pope/forgiveness/whatever

The sentence which mentions sodomy needs rewording to make it clearer; I can't make out what it's saying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.208.251.219 (talk) 06:46, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Neither could I, so I've taken it out. It wasn't referenced anyway. Deb (talk) 12:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

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Citations asked for

I added three "Citation needed" templates, for these reasons:

1. "The two women reportedly became good friends": the word "reportedly" was added today, and not by the same editor who added the next footnote: so was there really a report of this, and if so by whom? If there was no such report, I suggest the word "reportedly" could be deleted again, and the whole sentence (for what it's worth) would again depend on the footnote.
2. "though the stresses and disputes of the unsuccessful campaign did serious damage to their relationship". There doesn't seem to be any source for this. This clause is part of a long and complicated sentence, and in this clause I don't know whether the writer had Richard and Berengaria in mind, or Louis and Eleanor. If the latter, the statement is irrelevant to this page and the clause could be deleted.
3. "When Richard returned to England, he had to regain" [territory in France]: it isn't clear what his return to England has to do with this territory in France, and it isn't clear who said that he had to regain it. All that is evident from the facts is that he tried to regain it. It may be that rewriting this sentence would cure the problem.

If others think my templates aren't needed, feel free to revert. Andrew Dalby 09:28, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

There was no comment, so I've solved the issue my way. Others are welcome to do better. I deleted "The two women became good friends", because I would expect an encyclopedic biographical article on a medieval subject to indicate in some way why this claim can be made, rather than just to state it as plain fact. I deleted "though the stresses and disputes of the unsuccessful campaign did serious damage to their relationship" for the same reason and also because, since two couples are being discussed, it isn't clear which couple is the focus of this clause. I rewrote the sentence "When Richard returned to England, he had to regain ...", to say what I think the writer really meant. Andrew Dalby 15:36, 21 October 2020 (UTC)