Talk:Batavia (1628 ship)

Further Reading

The wreck of the Batavia by Simon Leys, is a good book because it gave a different point of view on the ship wreck in the victims view.Nickgutierrez71 (talk) 05:21, 2 February 2012 (UTC)nickgutierrez71

My article that I found is by Beasley, A. W. (2002). The First Amputation in Australia. Seventeenth Century, 17(1), 70. This Academic Journal shows another side to the shipwreck it shows it in a aftermath of what happened. Nickgutierrez71 (talk) 18:16, 10 February 2012 (UTC)Nickgutierrez71 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickgutierrez71 (talk • contribs)

An article has come out in The Monthly about this event. It can be used in the places for some 'Citation Needed' notes. The article disputes that Jacobsz was acting in concert with Cornelisz. The Monthly April 2015 edition, p 71. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Felix Dance (talk • contribs) 00:42, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Commentary

I've removed the bracketed commentary from the article text:

After leaving Cape Town, where they had stopped for supplies (Cape Town was founded on 6th April, 1652 so it seems improbable that this happened), Jacobsz deliberately steered the ship off course, away from the rest of the fleet.

Maybe someone can look into this claim? — Editør (talk) 10:59, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

What variety of English is used in this article?

What variety of English is in use in this article? Being significant in Western Australia I was expecting to see Australian English. I also see sp=us in some converts. Betterkeks (talk) 12:29, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Reading MOS:ENGVAR, this does not look like "strong national ties" enough. The variant is then decided by the first telling usage in edit history. Could be en-US then, by what you wrote. -DePiep (talk) 11:39, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@DePiep: So there are three candidate nations: Netherlands, Australia, United States. Reasons for strong national ties to Australia include:

1. Dutch ship wrecked in what is today Australian territory.
2. One of first European ships to visit Australia.
3. One of first European ships to wreck on Western Australian coast.
4. Led to first European mass murder in Australia.
5. Survivors built the first and oldest surviving building of European origin in Australia.
6. Led to first European judicial trial in Australia.
7. Led to first execution of Europeans by Europeans in Australia.
8. Led to first European immigration (albeit involuntary) into Australia.
9. Under the ANCODS Agreement, Australia is responsible for looking “after all the artefacts recovered from the wrecks, including their recovery, conservation, storage and display.”
10. Western Australian Museum (WAN) carried out significant archaeological work.
11. Remains of hull raised and curated in WAM along with other artefacts.
12. Entire site of wrecking protected by Australian law.
13. Site and specific parts within it are listed and recognised in numerous heritage lists and are clearly of utmost significance to Australia.

Betterkeks (talk) 07:30, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Jacobsz role

Jacobsz never confessed his part and the co conspirators were executed so how does anyone know what he did or didn't do? 213.31.58.104 (talk) 14:26, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Is this referring to Ariaen Jacobsz (there is more than one Jacobsz) and the mooted mutiny plot? ~ cygnis insignis 15:37, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Media

The works of Henrietta Drake-Brockman should be included.--Chianti (talk) 06:34, 6 May 2021 (UTC)