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I'm sorry, but that pic is not from Bariloche. Trust me, I live there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.47.63.6 (talk • contribs)

It's funny then that you made the comment from El Calafate (your IP can be traced...)

The picture might not be the centro civico, but it is definitelly Bariloche. I recognize the Cerebro discotteque, as well as a number of hotels for egresados. Mariano(t/c) 10:03, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

--- Hey, English speaking barilocheños... mark here.. (Km 5) 1534-1876 zeronemcs@hotmail.com oh, about the accuracy of the IP tracking systems.. those arent very accurate most of the times. specially with Telefonica's DSL IPs being 96% of the bariloche IPs.. most of the times I run a reverse DNS on my own IP i get all sorts of weird returns, from BA to Neuquen, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.49.14.9 (talk) 00:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Carlos Wiederhold

The little story about somebody addressing a letter to Don Carlos Wiederhold spelling San Carlos Wiederhold becoming the cause for the town to be officially called San Carlos (and not Don Carlos?) sounds disingenious and is almost certainly false. Wiederhold was a more interesting and remarkable character than one that came just and only to set up a small shop. Born in Osorno, Chile, he became an architect in Germany. Back in Chile, he took the trail of the staff that was working on establishing the Chile-Argentina border according to the 1883 agreement between the two countries. As an educated man with an entrepreneurial vision, Wiederhold realized that the extended Nahuel Huapi region was enclaved because there were no roads, no railway and no port facility on the Atlantic coast. Wiederhold conceived the project of desenclaving the region via the Pacific. To this end he established his main shop in Puerto Montt and a trading corporation, the Chile-Argentina, in association with German capitals. He then put steamships on both the Todos los Santos lake in Chile and the Nahuel Huapi in Argentina. The first steamship that navigated the Nahuel Huapi, the 80-ton "Condor", was constructed in Valdivia, Chile; shipped to Puerto Montt; carted to Puerto Varas; shipped over lake Llanquihue to Ensenada; carted to Petrohue on the Todos los Santos; shipped over the Todos los Santos to Peulla; transported with ox-pulled sleds over the Raulies pass; assembled at the western end of the Nahuel Huapi and put into service to boost economic development of the Nahuel Huapi region. At his Bariloche station, Wiederhold established a purchasing power for the products of the extended Nahuel Huapi region: wool and skins. These he had transported to Puerto Montt where the wares were loaded on oceanic steamers headed to German ports. On return, Wiederhold supplied consumption and capital goods to Bariloche and the extended region. The Chile-Argentina did very well until two events came together: oceanic navigation was perturbed by WWI, and a railway linking Bariloche to Atlantic ports and Buenos Aires was established. The Chile-Argentina was liquidated in 1917. The "Condor" became the property of a friend of Don Carlos - that was Don Primo Capraro. The point is that Carlos Wiederhold was an example of visionary entrepreneurship and strong, steady energy. The Chile-Argentina corporation did exactly that: serving both Chile and Argentina with brain and energy. Why should Wikipedia users be deprived of these historic facts, which are known to old stock Barilocheans? There is an enormous potential for cooperation between the Rio Negro Province and Chile's 10th Region but to realize it requires to do as Don Carlos did: go, see, conceive, and realize.

--Lupo Manaro 18:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice info, how do you know all this? Why dont you put the this into the article or create a Don Carlos article? Dentren | ^Talk 09:54, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

External link

--- I´m trying to add an external link of the official website of Bariloche, but i keep receiving warnings saying that my contribution is spam and I wont be able to edit pages anymore if I keep adding it. I believe it is important to publish the official website link of such an important City in Patagonia. There are several external links in San Carlos de Bariloche´s pàge and none of them is official. I´d really appreciate if you allowed me to publish the link again.

Thanks (Email Removed)

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—Preceding unsigned comment added by Xeleste (talk • contribs) 17:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I added your link, I didn't realize it was the city's official site. Is http://www.bariloche.com.ar/ not an official site as well? It comes off like it to me, though my Spanish is extremely limited. Who operates it, if not the city? Carl.bunderson (talk) 22:11, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the site. www.bariloche.com.ar is a private website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xeleste (talk • contribs) 12:14, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Sorry I didn't realize it wasn't official. And I'll remove the other site, to discourage other unofficial sites from popping up. Carl.bunderson (talk) 04:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

No first class science in Bariloche.

The article writes:"Besides tourism and the many activities and services associated with it, Bariloche is home to first class scientific and technological activities".Well, Bariloche is really first class in natural atractions, but hasn't any first class science activities.I visited this beautifull city some years ago.For tourism, this is an excellent choice, but Bariloche never had any first class science instituition.Agre22 (talk) 17:44, 19 February 2009 (UTC)agre22

Well, next time you travel to Bariloche, you sould visit the "Centro Atómico Bariloche" and you will realize that your statement isn't true. Since '50s, this centre is one of the most important in physics among others in the country, and since '70s is leader in nuclear engineering too. There are 500 persons working there in topics like solid, particle, statistical, atomic collisions and neutron physics, materials science, nuclear engineering and a large etcetera. Also there is a nuclear reactor for research purposes into the campus.190.136.29.16 (talk) 19:20, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

We should maybe replace the term "first class" with another more accurate or that is more easely to proof. Look at articles such as Harvard University and MIT, they are able to describe the kind of reseach going on there without mentioning "first class".Dentren | ^Talk 19:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, perhaps the term "advanced" will be most suitable.190.49.47.158 (talk) 22:31, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Aribert Heim

Deleted reference to Aribert Heim. This person fled to Egypt and died in Cairo in 1992. (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5664345.ece) Has nothing to do with Bariloche. 81.205.65.18 (talk) 12:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Ash fall for cordon-caulle eruption

no section here on the ashfall in bariloche from the 2011_Puyehue_eruption? here are a couple

Should it have a section? Why? It's incidental. The article on the eruption might mention it went as far as (wherever). There is no reason for every article on every town affected to mention a one-time event. Please remember to sign your posts in talk pages with four tildes (~~~~). -- Alexf^(talk) 12:19, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

. Added reference list to avoid confusion with comment below. Dentren | ^Talk 20:39, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 4 June 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: uncontested move. DrKiernan (talk) 09:57, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

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San Carlos de Bariloche → Bariloche – Bariloche is more common and more concise than San Carlos de Bariloche and still hols the qualities of being precise in meaning and natural. It is a short form that is more common than the long form. --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 10:03, 12 June 2015 (UTC) Dentren | ^Talk 20:37, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

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Images

I am in the process of removing off topic images, a gallery with no special purpose and the info box collage with images of neighbouring areas.SovalValtos (talk) 03:49, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Article name change

The name of this article was changed from Bariloche to San Carlos de Bariloche here. While the new article title is the correct formal name, I believe just using "Bariloche" is more in line with WP:COMMONNAME. There wasn't any discussion before it was moved, so I thought I'd open it up for discussion now. Thanks, Bahooka (talk) 23:10, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Also, I just noticed it was changed FROM San Carlos de Bariloche to Bariloche in 2015 earlier on this talk page. Bahooka (talk) 23:11, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Fringe theories

I am concerned we are allowing fringe theories of undocumented books. Just because "it is in a book" doesn't make it true, valid, plausible, or real. Moved the following out of the article for discussion:

In his 2004 book Bariloche nazi-guía turística, Argentine author Abel Basti claims that Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun lived in the surroundings of Bariloche for many years after the Second World War. Basti said that the Argentine Nazis chose the estate of Inalco as Hitler's refuge. Basti later expounded his claims on the U.S. TV show Expedition Unknown.

These are baseless allegations that do not conform to referenced history. -- Alexf^(talk) 21:53, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I don't think the average reader would take the quoted statement as an endorsement of Basti's theory, merely a mention of it, and there's no harm in mentioning it. In fact, since Wikipedia has a neutral point of view, this statement must be included to give an full understanding of the subject regardless of its credibility, as long as we also debunk the theory. See also the article Conspiracy theories about Adolf Hitler's death which lists other examples while also discrediting them. I also noticed you removed this theory but not the one immediately below it with basically the same claim. If you are going to remove one theory, you should remove the other as well so that the article can remain neutral. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:03, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

References

2010 Riot

I think something should be added in the History about the 2010 riot, in which 2 people died, the police station was attacked by a mob, and many stores were looted. More information can be found here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.105.122 (talk) 23:13, 29 December 2018 (UTC)