Talk:Atlas Tract

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Bryanrutherford0 in topic GA Review

Did you know nomination edit

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 13:17, 25 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that the Atlas Tract is farmland with a population of 0, but is expected to have a population of 42,000 by 2045? Source: Page 340 of ref from the article: "Municipal Service Review: Selected San Joaquin County Reclamation Districts" (PDF). San Joaquin Local Agency Formation Commission. E Mulberg & Associates. 18 March 2018. Archived (PDF) from the original on 14 March 2021. Retrieved 24 February

5x expanded by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 23:39, 17 November 2021 (UTC).Reply

  •   Hi JPxG, review follows: article more than 5x expanded on 17 November; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what appear to be reliable sources for the subject; I didn't spot any issues with overly close paraphrasing from the sources; hook is interesting, checks out to the source cited and is mentioned in the article; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 05:47, 18 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
Promoting to Prep 5Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 13:17, 25 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:Atlas Tract/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Bryanrutherford0 (talk · contribs) 15:59, 13 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
    The prose is fine, and the article appears to comply with the relevant portions of MoS. It would be nice to have all the dates in the sources formatted in a consistent fashion.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):   d (copyvio and plagiarism):  
    The article's claims are supported by citations to reliable published sources throughout. All of the content checks out with the sources.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
    I'd like to see a few more aspects of the topic discussed to achieve "broad coverage". First, the "Geography" section needs more description of the shape, terrain and setting of the island: is the island perfectly flat, or is there any relief? What is the land cover like? Are there any features to speak of? Do the bodies of water that surround it have names (I see some in the "Municipal Service Review" source)? Are other islands adjacent? It would also be nice to have something about the climate and ecology, even if it's something quite cursory, like, "The island has the Mediterranean climate and wetland biome characteristic of the wider delta region" (with a source, of course). I see lots more good information in the MSR source that the article would benefit from.
In the "History" section, some sort of description of who Charles E. Knapp might have been would be helpful ("a businessman involved in the SoPac railroad and land development in the area"). We're told that no mass excavation to construct a marina had occurred "as of 1993"; can this be updated?
The article is generally focused and doesn't stray from the topic inappropriately. Is the 2006 mosquito spraying a sufficiently notable event to merit inclusion? Is this the only time the area has ever been sprayed, or something?
  1. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
    The coverage of the topic is appropriately neutral and doesn't e.g. promote the island or exaggerate its significance.
  2. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
    No major changes in months.
  3. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
    The article has a clear satellite image of the island, from a public-domain US government source.
  4. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  
    A great start! I'd like to see some content added to round out the coverage before promoting it, but what's here is good. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 17:10, 13 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Bryanrutherford0: I have made some modifications -- let me know what you think. jp×g 06:32, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Great progress! I still wonder about the mosquito spraying, but my major remaining issue is that I expect an article about an island to contain at least a basic description of the island. Here are some examples of what I mean: "It has the rough shape of a rectangle measuring about 150 m x 100 m, with an indentation in the southeast corner. The island has no significant relief and rises less than one foot above sea level. The large majority of the land is planted with row crops." Some sense of what the island is like and what one would see while standing on it is the last piece I think is needed to achieve broad coverage. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 23:09, 23 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
@JPxG: Hey, love to hear back about this. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 16:16, 29 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
@JPxG: Still waiting to hear back from you about this; at some point the nomination will have to fail, in the absence of a response. Hope you're well! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 17:46, 8 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Okay, this is now failed for want of response from the nominator, unfortunately. It's very close, if anyone wants to improve the breadth of coverage and run it again. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:36, 24 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Bryanrutherford0: Sorry for the delay; I've incorporated the changes above, would appreciate a second look (if you want, I can open a second nomination for this). jp×g 01:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Alright, that will suffice to address my concerns. The article is now a pass; it's very short, but I think it probably says most of what there is to say about this island. Thanks! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 01:57, 3 March 2022 (UTC)Reply