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Requested move 18 February 2018

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Pages moved. John Gast (painter)American ProgressAmerican Progress (newspaper) + a redirect from American Progress (painting) to American Progress. (non-admin closure)  samee  talk 04:59, 4 March 2018 (UTC)Reply



John Gast (painter)American Progress (painting) – The article seems to be mostly about the painting, and the painting seems to be much more notable than the artist who made it, about whom little is known. The artist doesn't appear to have any other notable works, so maybe this article should be moved to the painting instead of the artist's name. Bindle-stiff (talk) 03:05, 18 February 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. SkyWarrior 04:00, 25 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

  • p.s. The page says that other than the American Progress painting little is known about the artist. The artist's only known notable thing is the painting. An interesting story, and the painting is near iconic for the era. So, changed my "tentative" to full support. Bindle-stiff, thanks for bringing this nom. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:38, 18 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
That page can keep its title, as this one will have (painting) added to the title. Codyorb (talk) 18:20, 2 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
No, it looks like the consensus is to make this one primary for American Progress without the descriptor. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:25, 2 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Location of painting?

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Does anyone know the present location of the painting? Not mentioned on the page. Randy Kryn (talk) 05:52, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

According to the Library of Congress ref, "Original painting purchased by Gene Autry Western Heritage Museum, 1992." Station1 (talk) 09:06, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Will try to find out if it's still there. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:33, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Yes, found it and added it to the lead. Still at the Autry Museum of the American West, and has more sources on its page linked in the new mention. Thanks again! Randy Kryn (talk) 12:43, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

John Gast (painter)

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Actually, a quite decent little bio of Gast has been published. If I ever get my hands on it, an adequate biographical article on Gast is possible. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:19, 9 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hello Orangemike,
Indeed, the French version has been developped, also.
Regards, --Daehan (talk) 19:10, 11 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Interpretrations

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I find it interesting that all references to this painting state that the Indigenous Americans are running for their lives away from the advancing Lady Columbia. However there are actually two groups of Indigenous Americans in the painting. When the Indigenous Americans are mentioned with the painting, people only see the ones in the foreground not the ones in the background who are actually dancing and preserving their own music, spirituality, traditions, and cultures. In the same scene you see teepees and a Native American having friendly conversations with an American. And the ones in the foreground that are supposed to be running away look more like they are leading the Lady Columbia with one apparently waiving at her to "come this way" while holding a coup stick. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C50:5C7F:CFAB:E904:A351:82DD:58A4 (talk) 01:49, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply