Talk:Amber L. Hollibaugh

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For the record, this is not a fan's review. I am not a fan of Amber L. Hollibaugh and have never been in contact with her or her agents. Rjensen (talk) 21:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Age

Does she have a date of birth? 93.184.128.18 (talk) 08:20, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

yes--1946 Rjensen (talk) 12:31, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Comments

I was asked to look at this. It's a Promotional article, no matter who wrote it, and is written just like many similar articles. A very abbreviated biography, with nothing specific about background and education. Discussing the contents of the book by including quotations or summaries of articles about them. Favorable comments only, which is rather unlikely for a radical of any sort, or anyone writing in this area. I did a little rewriting, but I haven't looked for other sources.

I was also asked to look at BLP concerns; the first paragraph is of course the sort of statements we are very careful with. But they come from her publisher's PR site, and therefore contain only what she herself wants to be said. So there's no concern about negative BLP. There is a concern about WP:V -- it's self-description, & it is not unknown for people to describe their activities in more lurid or dramatic ways than the actual circumstances warrant. (Some of the statements of course are almost always impossible to document otherwise) So I changed the wording to indicate that it was a self-description, and the reader will make of it what they will.

There's no real qy about notability: the book reviews and the other articles are sufficient. DGG ( talk ) 20:34, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

as for "promotional" -- I read all the major items I could find online (I cited most of them ) and I think they all range from favorable to highly favorable. They all emphasize how she integrated her early negative experience (white trash, prostitution, outcast) with her later activism. I did not find a single negative report on her--the worst is "her writing is too repetitive". Therefore I think we follow the NPOV rules. Several articles (such as the one in Canadian Hist Rev) used entirely independent archival sources (such as the Canadian national archives) to document her activism in Canada. The reports on the film she made are based on what independent film critics said. Rjensen (talk) 22:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Do we need links to reviews of Hollibaugh book?

Haven't seen in other articles links to reviews of books written by the subject of the article. Do we need them? Can they be deleted? --Dakinijones (talk) 22:22, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

in this case we need them because readers need to know how she is perceived, and the reviews provide evidence. And yes, many articles have links to reviews of booksRjensen (talk) 02:42, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

New lede 25/3/16

Most of the old lede was not represented in the main article. Valetude (talk) 22:24, 25 March 2016 (UTC)