Talk:Alpha Kappa Alpha

FAR/FA standards

This article was from a much earlier time and having a majority of sources that is to the subject itself would not be accepted by any contemporary standards Bumbubookworm (talk) 12:29, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Agreed. As a specific example, Pearls of service : the legacy of America's first black sorority, Alpha Kappa Alpha. This is undoubtedly a valuable source, but it is published by the sorority itself, and should NOT be used to demonstrate encyclopedic significance. It should instead be used to fill-in information that has been shown to be significance by independent sources (or for basic info that is uncontroversial and important).

As an example, the significance of Ida Jackson's school visits need to be contextualized as they relate to this sorority, not just in isolation. It appears the article currently fails to do this, which makes it difficult to differentiate important info from trivia or puffery. Lacking this context, if details or specific incidents have reliable, independent sources, they can be mentioned at Ida Louise Jackson.

From past experience, I am concerned that the raw quantity of information in this article may create a misleading impression when evaluated for FA status. Good editing means being willing to trim content until adequate sources can be found.

In addition, the article fails WP:TONE and WP:NPOV. Having "Bridging toward the twenty-first century" as a subsection title is a warning sign that the article is not written from a neutral point of view. Grayfell (talk) 02:01, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Grayfell, yours is a very fair analysis. This is a decent article about a valued member of the GLO community. However, it needs unbiased editing --This from the perspective of someone who wants substantially more Greek Letter organization content across the board. It's certainly graphically interesting, and follows a decent progression of milestones. But woven into many paragraphs is too much fluff, minutiae, and outright peacock language. I'd also remark that the Alpha Kappa Alpha article isn't alone among the Divine nine that ought to address this issue. Jax MN (talk) 03:10, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

• Since this issue has not been further discussed, I have made an edit as an example of the kinds of changes that I think will be needed to restore the article to good standing. There is much more work needed, especially with finding independent sources, but hopefuly this edit demonstrates the problem somewhat. I would remind any interested editors that people who are members of this sorority will have a conflict of interest in editing this article, and should take appropriate measures to comply with Wikipedia's attempt at keeping a neutral point of view. Grayfell (talk) 05:03, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

List of chapters

I have just created and published a new article, List of Alpha Kappa Alpha chapters. There is some missing data, especially related to inactive collegiate and graduate chapters. If you know of sources for this information, please help improve the list. Thanks. Rublamb (talk) 04:13, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

HBCU template

Naraht, an editor just removed a "non-bidirectional navbox" that is,

{{HBCU}}

Should this otherwise be adjusted on the other side? I don't fully understand the use of the term, bi-directionality here, but suspect that Alpha Kappa Alpha should have this template. Would you look at this? Jax MN (talk) 22:45, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Jax MN I agree with the change. In *general* for navboxes, only those pages *with* the navbox on it should be linked from the navbox and vice versa. (See Wikipedia:BIDIRECTIONAL) I've actually removed/added links and removed/added templates to reach that. (In fact I have done so within the last day with colleges which are *part* of Universities in Maryland) I do leave a *few*, for example, the Professional Fraternities navbox has a link to the NIC since a few have migrated there and Template:Phi Beta Sigma articles does have links to Howard University and NPHC. But for Alpha Kappa Alpha to include a navbox to the list of all NPHCs, I would probably have done the exact same edit myself.Naraht (talk) 23:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

In fact, I even found a tool that enables me to check for that balance, https://templatetransclusioncheck.toolforge.org/index.php?lang=en . In fact the new preferred documentation for Templates includes this. See Template:Minnesota Vikings roster navbox for an example.Naraht (talk) 23:46, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Template:HBCU still isn't completely balanced, but the remaining three are "parts" of HBCUs with some level of independence, I'll have to think about whether to add them to the template, drop the template from those articles or neither.Naraht (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, those are pretty much the reasons why I removed the HBCU template. Indyguy (talk) 00:13, 31 August 2023 (UTC)