Talk:2016 ATP World Tour Finals

RedPatchBoys Removed Deletion Request from Fyunck: It should not be deleted. The event occurs in a year, sure, but qualifying is a year long process, and this article records the current qualifying status. When tournaments begin in a week, it will be updated every week and even multiple times a week, just like every ATP World Tour Final page is updated every year. We have FIFA World Cup qualifying articles even though the actual world cup is in 2018, because qualifying is done on an ongoing basis. This is the exact same thing.

Players in Blue are active in...

We cannot have a "players in blue are active in" statement because of accessibility issues for the sight challenged. All color additions must be associated with an additional symbol. WP:ACCESSIBILITY. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:51, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Fyunck(click), the WP:ACCESS (WP:COLOR in particular) issues are still present. There are far too many too bright colors here. Additionally, the singles and doubles table does not appear to use the same system.Tvx1 22:39, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Yes, there are way too many colours here. We can remove the gold/pink etc from the player name lists I think? --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 09:26, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

I've made these changes - I'm not sure if this helps? If it does I can go back to previous World Tour Finals pages and adapt. Note that I've left the colouring for tournmaent results: similar patterns are used in tennis players and formula one season/driver articles and I think there's a bigger question to be had if there's an issue with that. --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 09:30, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

It still wasn't WP:ACCESS compliant because colors were still being uses as sole means of conveying information. I removed the colors and replaced them with symbols which are formatted so that even blind people have access to that information. The singles and doubles tables were still using different systems which I have fixed as well. The tournament coloring is probably WP:ACCESS compliant because the text in the cells provides the same information. We do need to include a legend for them though. Tvx1 21:23, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Great, good job - so we can remove the tags and make similar edits to previous year's articles? I've removed the 'declined' symbol as it's unclear that these players did 'decline', or just weren't invited (for example, Kyrigos was banned). --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 09:30, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

If there's no problem it can be enrolled to the other articles. Tvx1 13:59, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Do not like this. Bring that back - I mean the 2 declined players. Your reasoning is wrong. Kyrgios has nothing to do with this. Naki (talk) 11:20, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Do you have any evidence that those players decline a place? --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 12:14, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Do you have any they did not? I am pretty much sure info was provided by an insider, or one close to such a person. Naki (talk) 21:18, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Bring the old table back! Even without colors. I see you removed Kyrgios also and this is very, very wrong. Such a thing - suspension for 8 weeks at end of season - happens rarely in tennis, so people should know it happened. I did because of this exact table! Naki (talk) 07:54, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

No. Read the above discussion. It has accessibility issues for a lot of readers.Tvx1 15:15, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

 Note: I agree with Tvx1 and also found the same WP:COLOR issue across many of tennis articles. For more information, please visit Talk:Big Four (tennis)#Overcolored. In short, the color issue is escalated to the entire project discussion in Japan. Some Japanese users insisted using over-coloring, and then they were blocked by administrators. --Mis0s0up (talk) 09:34, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Question Re Ferrer and Cilic

Why do Ferrer and Cilic have other events listed in place of a Masters 1000 (Ex. Ferrer did not play in Indian Wells and that spot is given 45 points for his performance at the Ricoh Open). I thought if they did not play in a Masters 1000 they got an automatic 0 points and could not fill that spot. Can someone explain why these two apparently have an exception? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RedPatchBoys (talk • contribs) 02:40, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Messed Up

This table has quite a few mistakes in it and needs to be completely double-checked against the original on ATP website. Right now it is completely unreliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:797B:EA00:F40D:EE58:3BA0:54B4 (talk) 08:13, 23 October 2016 (UTC)