Talk:2003 Budweiser Shootout

Latest comment: 4 years ago by MWright96 in topic GA Review
Good article2003 Budweiser Shootout has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 29, 2019Good article nomineeListed
September 16, 2019Featured article candidateNot promoted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 5, 2019.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Dale Earnhardt Jr. won the 2003 Budweiser Shootout stock car race despite starting from the back of the grid?
Current status: Good article

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:2003 Budweiser Shootout/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 07:32, 10 July 2019 (UTC)Reply


Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 11:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures edit

  • It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -   Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 15:53, 12 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • It contains copyright infringements - there's one on Copyvio detector, but I don't think so. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 15:53, 12 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -   Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 15:53, 12 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -   Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 15:53, 12 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Links edit

Prose edit

Lede edit

Background edit

Practice and qualification edit

  • Sorry for the delay on this one - Had my hands full with an FA. back now:
  • For qualifying, the nineteen drivers that appeared to race chose - I prefer "nineteen participants", less confusing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • pole position and Kurt Busch are both linked twice. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • The qualifying is quite long just to say where the top ten finished. I'd stick with a top 5, considering it was a lot. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
    • Not too sure about this query since there are less than 20 participants in the race. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Race edit

  • Eastern Standard Time (UTC−05:00) - Don't need to say both of these things. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • was televised live - broadcast live
  • commanded the drivers to start their engines - "commanded" is quite a strong word. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
    • I think that is acceptable and it is tradition to start the race via this method in NASCAR racing. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • On lap three, Geoff Bodine felt one of his tires rubbing on his car's bodywork, and he drove his car into the garage.[2] It was discovered that his suspension was damaged and he was confirmed as the race's only retirement on the fourth lap. - lap three or four? Did he notice it on 3 and pit on lap 4? Or, did he go back out and come back in? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • The whole thing about the 10-minute pit stop needs explaining to me. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Newman clung onto Earnhardt's rear bumper panel - not literally, surely? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
    • Yes, this is a technique called bump drafting as to maintain momentum. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • attempted to go two abreast behind him - did they go two abreast? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:12, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Post-race comments edit

  • Could this be changed to something like "press comments?" Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:12, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • The Semi-colon in the first sentence isn't right, neither part is required for the other. I'd just change to "The win earned Earnhardt $205,000 and celebrated by performing donuts in the infield grass in front of a crowd of 75,000 people."Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:12, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Rest is good. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:12, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Notes & References edit

GA Review edit

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):   d (copyvio and plagiarism):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  

Comments edit

  • Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definately not manditory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 07:17, 11 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
    • Hi MWright96, pretty close here, just a few comments above. Sorry for the delay. I'd also mention that the table isn't effected by WP:DUPLINK, so you can link every instance of a team/driver being mentioned. I won't place this on hold, as it's pretty close. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:14, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
      • @Lee Vilenski: Many thanks for reviewing another article of mine that I have significantly expanded. All of the queries raised above and have said where I have not and provided a reason for why. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply