Talk:2003 Budweiser Shootout/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 07:32, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -  Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:53, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
• It contains copyright infringements - there's one on Copyvio detector, but I don't think so. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:53, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -  Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:53, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -  Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:53, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Links

• checklinks is happy Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:50, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
• No dablinks/ Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:53, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Prose

Lede

• Geoff Bodine won the pole position through a lot, - what does this mean? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:55, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  • This is a formal name to say that Bodine won the poie position via a draw. MWright96 (talk) 18:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
• rest is fine Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:55, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Background

• The image isn't of the track, it should be listed in the caption that it's a artists version Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Corrected. MWright96 (talk) 18:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
• Captions on images should be full sentences Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Corrected. MWright96 (talk) 18:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
• one of six superspeedways to hold NASCAR races; the others are - not sure on the word "are", suggests these races are on-going. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Yes, that is still the case. MWright96 (talk) 18:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
• wikilink/explain "banked". Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Wikilinked banked to Banked turn. MWright96 (talk) 18:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Practice and qualification

• Sorry for the delay on this one - Had my hands full with an FA. back now:
• For qualifying, the nineteen drivers that appeared to race chose - I prefer "nineteen participants", less confusing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
• pole position and Kurt Busch are both linked twice. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Rectified. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
• The qualifying is quite long just to say where the top ten finished. I'd stick with a top 5, considering it was a lot. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Not too sure about this query since there are less than 20 participants in the race. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Race

• Eastern Standard Time (UTC−05:00) - Don't need to say both of these things. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  • MOS:TIMEZONE states that this is an acceptable method of writing. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
• was televised live - broadcast live
  •  Done MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
• commanded the drivers to start their engines - "commanded" is quite a strong word. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  • I think that is acceptable and it is tradition to start the race via this method in NASCAR racing. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
• On lap three, Geoff Bodine felt one of his tires rubbing on his car's bodywork, and he drove his car into the garage.[2] It was discovered that his suspension was damaged and he was confirmed as the race's only retirement on the fourth lap. - lap three or four? Did he notice it on 3 and pit on lap 4? Or, did he go back out and come back in? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Clarified. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
• The whole thing about the 10-minute pit stop needs explaining to me. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Clarified. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
• Newman clung onto Earnhardt's rear bumper panel - not literally, surely? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Yes, this is a technique called bump drafting as to maintain momentum. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
• attempted to go two abreast behind him - did they go two abreast? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:12, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Corrected. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Post-race comments

• Could this be changed to something like "press comments?" Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:12, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Changed it to "After the race". MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
• The Semi-colon in the first sentence isn't right, neither part is required for the other. I'd just change to "The win earned Earnhardt $205,000 and celebrated by performing donuts in the infield grass in front of a crowd of 75,000 people."Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:12, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  •  Done MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
• Rest is good. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:12, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments

• Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definately not manditory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:17, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi MWright96, pretty close here, just a few comments above. Sorry for the delay. I'd also mention that the table isn't effected by WP:DUPLINK, so you can link every instance of a team/driver being mentioned. I won't place this on hold, as it's pretty close. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:14, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
    • @Lee Vilenski: Many thanks for reviewing another article of mine that I have significantly expanded. All of the queries raised above and have said where I have not and provided a reason for why. MWright96 (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)