Talk:1990 Croatian parliamentary election

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What do the initials stand for?Edit

Anoyingly, Hrvatska u Izborima 90 doesn't expand any of the initials. My guess would be that SS-SSH is the Socialist Alliance with the Social Democrats of Croatia, that HDS is the Croatian Democratic Party and the SDS is the Serbian Democratic Party but not being sure I decided to leav it for someone who is more sure to expand them. Dejvid 20:11, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Savka and TripaloEdit

Jesus what a freak show..."leaders of Croatian Spring" were not anti-Communists. They WERE communists. Savka was the Prime minister, for crying out loud. I corrected it to "liberal" communists, because later on, in 1992, they have formed Croatian people's party, that is the party of liberal-democraty.
Savka and Tripalo were Communists in 1971, perhaps they even considered themselves to be Communists in 1990, but they definitely didn't campaign under that banner in 1990. Calling them "liberal Communists" in context of 1990 elections is wrong. --Raoul DMR 07:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree on that, that the banner of "liberal communists" is wrong for KNS on elections in 1990, but their program wan't anticommunist nor nationalist. That is missleadning and false. That was the coalition of liberal, leftish and mild national parties or groups. That is why they called themselves "The Accord". Savka and Tripalo later on created another liberal party (Gotovac, also a member of The Accord created first non-communist party - Croatian Social Liberals in 1989), HKDU was also created from the Accord and HDS supported HDZ later on. Also, a small group of Croatian Social Democrats joyined SDP in 1994. I say it again, calling them anti-communist (just because they represented themselves against Racan's "reformed communists") is wrong, and calling them nationalists is missleading (because the "national" idea was the main catch of HDZ). I would recommend to write liberals and populars. See very good aricle about that Coalition of People's Accord--Marko Jurcic 13:19, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Ref anchorsEdit

Just a quick heads-up: DIP 1990 a/b anchors do not seem to work - a trivial matter I'd normally fix myself but I'm not 100% sure what would be the best way... GregorB (talk) 11:22, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks - case of parameter-misplaced designator a/b.--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:25, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

Parliamentary elections were held in the Socialist Republic of Croatia

Part of SFRY then - should be explained for context.

Those were the first free and multiparty elections held in Croatia since 1938, and the first such elections for the Croatian Parliament since 1913.

Maybe mention the legalization of political parties as an immediately preceding event?

elected Franjo Tuđman

...president of the HDZ.

as well as growing ethnic tensions between Croats and Serbs

True, but it would be nice to introduce a broader context of the Yugoslav crisis: not just Croats and Serbs, but Slovenes too, or generally "separatists" vs "unionists".

crossed the party lines

Perhaps not the best wording: this is simply a consequence of the then-new multi-party system, not a transgressive event in an already established multi-party democracy.

Intro has been changed today[1] - no opinion on that at the moment. Will provide more comments later. GregorB (talk) 16:53, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Part IIEdit

  • Missing is the infamous "party of dangerous intentions" remark by Račan - IIRC he was commenting on the first HDZ convention in Feb 1990. The convention and its aftermath could be given a paragraph.
  • "rejecting the arbitrary rule and corruption that many Croatians associated with 45 years of communist domination" - OK if the source says so, but I don't think the 1990 election had a major anti-corruption, pro-Western efficiency theme.

There is very little of substance I can complain about: the article is well-written, well-organized and above all thorough in all aspects.

Sorry for the delay, I got badly sidetracked and nearly forgot about having started this. (I suppose one could say 90% of what I do here is one huge diversion anyway. :-) ) GregorB (talk) 13:04, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

No worries, RL intervened over here as well. Will look into the first item and add what can be sourced. The second one is directly supported by a RS.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:16, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
How about adding a table with a total number of votes that each party received for all 3 councils? Tzowu (talk) 19:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Given the number of councils, two rounds of voting, the fact that not every party ran in every constituency (only SKH-SDP did so) and the electoral system where some constituencies had the 2nd round, and the others did not, and even those which did - conceivably did not have the runoff for all three councils - I firmly believe the table would not generate anything resembling useful information. There already is the total number of votes cast and percentages by council by round by party in the article which is probably what the readers are after anyway.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:16, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

GA ReviewEdit

This review is transcluded from Talk:Croatian parliamentary election, 1990/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Winner 42 (talk · contribs) 17:11, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


Overall CommentsEdit

Placing under review. Winner 42 Talk to me! 17:11, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Review is done, placing on hold. Winner 42 Talk to me! 01:47, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
  • No dead links, dab links, or copyvios
  • Oxford comma usage is inconsistent
  • The article uses "SKH-SDP" and "SDP-SKH" interchangeably

Sectional AnalysisEdit

  • Lead
    • Excellently written and complies with MOS:LEAD, practically FA class work
  • Background
    • one day before the party's 11th Congress Could use a wikilink to the congress or a short explanation of the political situation that led to this vote.
    • The acronym "SKJ" is not defined in the text
    • Were these proposals the ZKS's or the SKH's or both?
    • Was was the SKJ ended if the proposals were rejected?
  • Electoral legislation
    • February In 1989?
    • The different legislatures could use wikilinks.
    • Which opposition groups opposed it, minor parties?
  • Political parties
    • Perhaps a little more background on SKH or KNS as they seemed to have a lot of influence in this election
  • Campaign
    • media manipulation and even paranoia I can't seem to find the source for this, could you make it more clear?
    • In this section you offer quotes of campaign slogans, I presume that these slogans are translated, if so that should be mentioned.
    • For the SKH-SDP, the elections primarily meant a campaign for the reform of the Yugoslav federation. The HDZ's priority was building the Croatian state Can you clarify how are these things specifically different? Additionally including other major policy platforms would be helpful in providing comprehensive coverage to the reader.
    • The last paragraph of the first subsection could benefit from dates to aid readers in establishing a timeline of events.
  • Media Coverage
    • That first paragraph makes some fairly bold claims, an addition source besides Pauković would help in establishing its neutrality.
    • Was the Yugoslav Independent Democratic Party not standing for election because right before that the article states that the rally It was not formally associated with any party standing in the election
    • Were there any major debates that gathered significant media coverage?
  • Voting and results
    • Are these percentages of the total population, of registered voters, or of some other category? (Noting the lack of universal suffrage in this election as described earlier)
    • would be removed from public office Is this referring to the practice of Cronyism or merely appointing ideologically similar people to political positions?


ReviewEdit

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Closing commentEdit

The nominator has not edited on Wikipedia since late June, the article itself hasn't been edited since a typo fix around that time (and a major copyedit in late May), and the reviewer has just retired from Wikipedia. Given the issues raised in the review, I am closing this nomination; the article is not being listed. Should the nominator return, I suggest addressing all the issues raised in the review before renominating; a peer review might also be useful. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:24, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

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