Talk:1970 NBA expansion draft

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  • In 1970 NBA Expansion Draft on 2011-05-25 04:08:45, 404 Not Found
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--JeffGBot (talk) 14:34, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

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• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080116123003/http://www.nba.com/bobcats/news/draft_central_expansion_alltime_results.html to http://www.nba.com/bobcats/news/draft_central_expansion_alltime_results.html

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revert

At this edit, Editor ZooBlazer reverted my edit with the edit summary URL status is necessary.

Not true. |url-status=dead is not necessary as demonstrated by these examples:

• with |url-status=dead:

  {{cite web |title=Title |url=//example.com |archive-url=//archive.org |archive-date=2024-01-31 |url-status=dead}}

  "Title". Archived from the original on 2024-01-31.

• without |url-status=dead:

  {{cite web |title=Title |url=//example.com |archive-url=//archive.org |archive-date=2024-01-31}}

  "Title". Archived from the original on 2024-01-31.

In both of these examples, the rendering is exactly the same so |url-status=dead is not necessary when the url in |url= is dead.

When the url in |url= is live, is unfit, is usurped, then |url-status= is necessary. Including |url-status=dead in a cs1|2 template just adds clutter to the wikitext; don't do that.

My edit should be restored primarily because of the reference (permalink) that Editor ZooBlazer rebroke when reverting my edit. As I write this, that reference (permalink) is still broken.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk The refs are marked dead because they lead to error pages as they are all over 10 years old and things have changed with the links/sites in that time. It makes the archive link the default link instead so people can actually read what the website says. -- ZooBlazer 16:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Did you not look at my examples? In both of my examples, |title=Title is linked by |archive-url=//archive.org regardless of the presence or absence of |url-status=dead; clicking "Title" in the examples takes you to //archive.org.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:14, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Do what you want, but the URL status is just going to get added back eventually by an editor or bot as it's normally a main part of archived refs. -- ZooBlazer 17:22, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I did. This time though, I looked at each of the urls that had been marked dead. Some are in fact dead; others are not. Those that aren't dead, I changed to |url-status=deviated to indicate that the original source is live but has been changed in some way.

And I fixed your broken reference (diff).

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:37, 31 January 2024 (UTC)