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Oregon Settlements

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A non-fan of non-places is prodding some likely-to-be-places. I'll be working on Rice, Oregon. OGN is apparently now considered just a gazetteer, so use moar sources. Others:

Happy researching, Valfontis (talk) 04:42, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I contested Fairbanks but agree with Dant, fwiw. Cracking open "Stations West" and not even finding "Dant" mentioned wasn't exactly an endorsement. tedder (talk) 18:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Howdy. I dunno, Dant was created by @Finetooth: and he has pretty good instincts as far as notability. Valfontis (talk) 18:36, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Maybe merge and redir to Oregon Trunk Railroad? Valfontis (talk) 18:39, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Regarding Kingsley, it was demoted to a ghost town, which is fine, but can one link to Google Maps to prove that nothing is there? Seems like WP:OR to me. Said the amateur geographer. I'm also curious, @WeirdNAnnoyed: why Kingsley didn't get a Prod while Rice did. Rice also has a cemetery... Valfontis (talk) 18:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello @Valfontis:, I decided not to PROD Kingsley because I could find far more mentions of it in local newspapers than I could Rice (although most of them were trivial mentions of somebody "of Kingsley" doing something completely unnotable, as small-town newspapers often used to print). If you're aware of more substantial information then by all means add it and remove my PROD. I'm not committed to deleting these articles, I just don't think we should have articles about places where all we can say is its name, location, and when it had a post office. That gets into WP:INDISCRIMINATE territory. But if we can say more, we should keep the articles. BTW, my understanding is Google Maps (or other maps) are fine for proving existence (e.g. the cemetery) but not notability. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 23:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@WeirdNAnnoyed: I created the Dant article about 10 years ago. Although the article's claims are faithful to the sources cited, the claims are thin, and Dant probably fails the notability test. Tedder is correct in saying that Dant is not mentioned in Stations West, which does however include a map of the Oregon Trunk Railway showing the location of a station named Frieda. The station name was changed from Frieda to Dant in honor of the perlite mine guy. All that is of such minor historical interest that deleting the Dant article seems reasonable. Oregon Trunk Railway and Oregon Trunk Railroad both redirect to Spokane, Portland and Seattle Railway, which has only one paragraph about this trunk line. If someone wanted to use the station list in Stations West to expand that paragraph, Dant (Frieda) could rise again as a tiny part of a minor list. Finetooth (talk) 00:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hey Finetooth! Can you or @Tedder see if Havana, Oregon is mentioned in Stations West? It's on the Pendleton Branch line of the UP (formerly OR&N). I think I have a copy around here somewhere... Thanks! Valfontis (talk) 20:13, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
hi! Not in the index. Also doesn't appear in OGN (6th ed.). tedder (talk) 20:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thx! Yeah, definitely not in 7th OGN in either. Valfontis (talk) 21:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also, Riley Moffat's book of historical populations of western towns has data about nearby Helix, Oregon but nothing about Havana. Finetooth (talk) 00:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks Finetooth! Hey, while I have you on the line, is Wildhorse Creek in Umatilla County (Umatilla River tributary) worth a darn? Valfontis (talk) 05:16, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Kintzing Prichette

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He is listed as being a 2 month Governor of Oregon yet he does not appear on the Oregon Governors page. Also the dates for Lane's first term and Gaines' term are inaccurate if we properly add Prichette back in. This needs to be reconciled. Coyotez (talk) 21:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Coyotez, I see he's in a footnote on the List of governors of Oregon page. I'm curious if the state has an official list (I know it was pre-statehood) and did they include him? Valfontis (talk) 05:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Carolyn B. Shelton isn't listed either. A decision must have been made not to include acting governors. Valfontis (talk) 05:28, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Help with expanding draft

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Where can I recruit people to help expand a draft I've created?
If you reply here, please ping me. — thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 02:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@TheTechie: What draft are you referring to? – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 07:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Draft:Capitol Highway << that one, I'm having some trouble finding sources, so some help would be appreciated thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 17:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Lord Bolingbroke thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 17:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Capitol Highway currently redirects to Oregon Route 10. Do you think it would make more sense to add info at the target article rather than splitting it into a separate page? In terms of sources, I found some web pages from the City of Portland like [1] and [2]. I also found some news articles about construction and improvements on the road like [3][4][5]. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 07:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
As this is mostly a local street rather than a state-maintained highway (and doesn't appear to be on the named highways system), I don't think it will survive AfD, especially on general notability grounds. There are probably plenty of sources in the Oregonian archives, but little to demonstrate notability beyond local coverage. SounderBruce 08:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Actually, the Capitol Highway has historical significance as the first highway between the Capitol Library building in Salem and its terminus in Portland. We have a couple of mentions in other WP highway articles:
from Oregon Route 99W#History:
"The first highway in the corridor was the Capitol Highway (Highway 3), from Portland to Salem via Dayton (roughly present OR 99W and OR 221). In 1927 it was merged with the West Side Highway, which ran from Dayton to Junction City, to form the West Side Pacific Highway, still numbered 3, and a western loop of the Pacific Highway (Highway 1/U.S. Route 99). (The former Capitol Highway south of Dayton was removed from the system, but was later taken over as the Salem-Dayton Highway.)"
and Oregon Route 99W#Old alignments:
"The original alignment in southern Portland, bypassed in the 1930s by Barbur Boulevard, is still called Capitol Highway. It begins at the present north end of OR 99W and runs first east, then west, of Highway 1W, eventually merging with OR 10 (formerly the Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway) before ending at Highway 1W south of downtown."
I've added a bit to the draft, but am still sifting through the multiple sources I listed on Draft talk:Capitol Highway. There's even a great historical image here, c. 1920 (presumably public domain): Capitol Highway Approaching Hillsdale from the West
I have yet to find sources that substantiate the text in the Description section, which covers only the remnant of the Capitol Highway still extant in Portland... still looking. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 16:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
This would all be best covered under the OR 99W (or even a spun-off US 99W) article, rather than creating a separate article that will only cover a tiny section of the corridor. Much like how we don't have articles on other short sections of US 99 that were amalgamated to form the original highway. SounderBruce 17:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Stephen Epler (PSU founder)

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I just created Stephen Epler, any one want to work on the article? I'm presuming it is the same person as the football one. If Epler had a big role in ensuring that the college didn't die after the flood, I think he deserves an article. Jason McHuff (talk) 23:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for getting the article started. While Epler is definitely notable, creating an article with such egregious formatting issues is unacceptable for an autopatrolled user such as yourself. I went ahead and did some cleanup, but you really should invest some more effort next time and not dump this workload on other editors. A minimum, you need to provide inline references and properly format the citations rather than just giving bare URLs. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 18:26, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
My apologies, I should have looked into using the draft feature, or put it on a sub page of my user page. Jason McHuff (talk) 05:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
It's all good, thanks again for getting it started! – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 05:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Since I now see your clean-up job, thank you very much for doing it!

Requested move at Talk:2024 Oregon House of Representatives election#Requested move 10 June 2024

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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Oregon House of Representatives election#Requested move 10 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

List of parks in Portland, Oregon

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After populating Category:Parks in North Portland, Oregon, Category:Parks in Northeast Portland, Oregon, Category:Parks in Northwest Portland, Oregon, Category:Parks in South Portland, Oregon, Category:Parks in Southeast Portland, Oregon, and Category:Parks in Southwest Portland, Oregon, I realized List of parks in Portland, Oregon needs a little love. Some of the needed changes are related to the creation of South Portland. I've identified some unresolved issues at Talk:List of parks in Portland, Oregon, if any others are interested in collaborating. Thanks! --Another Believer (Talk) 16:04, 21 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Frank Branch Riley

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We have a new bio on Frank Branch Riley, who became known as Oregon's "unofficial ambassador", courtesy of Goldfish-silverfish. I think the article could be a candidate for DYK if any other editors are interested in looking it over. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 18:41, 24 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Good article reassessment for Portland Trail Blazers

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Portland Trail Blazers has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 20:03, 26 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Made a start, but ran out of time today. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 22:11, 26 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

FPC

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Now, I don't want to canvass votes, so please only vote if you would likely have done so anyway, but just to let everyone here know, File:Portland, Oregon, in 1898 - Herbert A. Hale.jpg is up at featured pictures, and looks very likely to pass (it's already at quorum). Used in a number of Portland-related articles; photographer doesn't appear to have an article, though I suspect he could if people wanted to dig into enough non-online sources. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 20:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the pointer. It's nice to know what's going on, I don't see it as a canvass. tedder (talk) 22:48, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I just think it's better to be explicit on such things. Better over-cautious than under-cautious, after all. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 18:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
For the record, it passed and is now a featured picture. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 14:17, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Adam Cuerden Nice work, congrats! --Another Believer (Talk) 14:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Photo request

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Greetings. If you live in or near McMinnville, Oregon, I would appreciate a photograph of one (or both) of these restaurants: Hayward (restaurant) and Okta (restaurant). Please snap photos of the building and (if necessary) a dish. Thanks in advance, TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 22:45, 30 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

  MidCity SmashedBurger, too! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:01, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
  + Henry Higgins Boiled Bagels ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Pioneer Courthouse Square Christmas tree

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Feeling a bit Christmas in July-ish? Welcoming collaboration at Draft:Pioneer Courthouse Square Christmas tree, for anyone who is interested. Happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:13, 4 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Found this Oregonian piece with 43 photos of the annual tuba Christmas concert, at least one with the tree in the background. Maybe an ext. link? — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 19:22, 4 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
There's a lot of holiday-related programming at the square, but I am trying to keep this entry specific to the tree and affiliated festivities, such as the tree arrival parades and lighting ceremonies. I feel good about coverage of the 2000s to present, based on Google and Google News searches, but the Oregonian archives may be needed for a bit more detail about the 1980s and 1990s. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Seeking collaboration and GA co-nomination

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Here's a short list of some articles I've worked on that could use a bit of polishing before a Good article nomination. I'm down to collaborate and co-nominate, if you see one that interests you:

Just lemme know here or on the article's talk page. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)Reply