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Requested move 11 April 2022 edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago16 comments12 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. The opposition arguments based upon WP:TITLETM are persuasive. (closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 15:19, 25 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

¥€$ → Yes (Tommy Cash album) – While most reliable sources use these three symbols to refer to Tommy Cash's album, Wikipedia generally dislikes this sort of stylism in article titles. 162 etc. (talk) 07:30, 11 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 23:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Support. These types of stylizations don't belong in the article title. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:39, 11 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Support no need for stylized nonsense, per MOS:TMSTYLE—blindlynx 20:05, 11 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Support per the way Tommy Cash is titled, also Kesha and Pink (singer) are not titled "Ke$ha" and "P!nk" respectively. Therefore I agree with this nomination. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:49, 11 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:23, 12 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Question, are there sources calling it "Yes" (or even YES)? Because both WP:AT and MOS:TM explicitly ask us to not invent names. Just because Ke$ha and P!nk are not stylized (because there are multiple sources that don't use the stylization), it doesn't mean that every article has to follow that guideline (i.e. Deadmau5, Sunn O))) et. al). (CC) Tbhotch^™ 01:27, 13 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

And coupled with the fact that we should not invent names, AT furthers goes at WP:COMMONAME with "Wikipedia [...] generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources) as such names will usually best fit the five criteria listed above". If the existing sources are not assuming this subject is actually named "Yes" (phonetical transcription is not relevant for AT), then we should not prescribe such usage as it is incorrect. "Wikipedia does not lead, Wikipedia follows" is a principle. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 01:45, 13 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
A good point. While there are sources that use "YES" [1] [2], these aren't what I'd consider particularly reliable. 162 etc. (talk) 15:47, 15 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

This is a title formatting issue, so how sources choose to stylize the title don't really matter, just like our title formatting convention about not capitalizing short prepositions in article titles regardless of what sources do. Rreagan007 (talk) 03:33, 16 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Oppose While some may view the title as "nonsense" what matters is what reliable sources say (and the nom says most reliable sources use ¥€$). I would also point out that it is not uncommon for us to use icons in the titles of albums, see ÷ (album) or $O$. AusLondonder (talk) 12:45, 13 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Those examples should both be moved also. Stylized symbols like that being used as stand-ins for letters or words don't belong in the article title. Rreagan007 (talk) 03:31, 16 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Support per naming conventions. The title of the album is clearly a stylisation of the word "yes", not literally "yen-euro-dollar". JIP | Talk 19:51, 13 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Oppose The arguments for this move are not really engaging with the meat of the relevant policy, WP:TITLETM, which says Article titles follow standard English text formatting in the case of trademarks, unless the trademarked spelling is demonstrably the most common usage in sources independent of the owner of the trademark (emphasis added). Per Tbhotch's line of questioning above (and even the nom statement!), the current title, stylized nonsense or no, seems to meet that requirement. Colin M (talk) 19:33, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
0ÞÞ0$€ per Colin M. WP:TITLETM seems pretty darn clear on this. Dohn joe (talk) 16:50, 19 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Oppose WP:IDONTLIKEIT voting doesn't make policy sections that explicitly tolerate or even recommend stylizations, as long as the appropriate sources use them predominantly, suddenly disappear. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:33, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

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