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Help Bringing a Page on the Awesome II to Community StandardsEdit

Hi Folks. Excited to have found this project. I recently wrote a book on the history of rap radio in New York (Duke UP, Fall 2022) based on my ph.d dissertation (Yale, 2019), and I'd like to publish a Wikipedia entry on two individuals who were critical in the early history of hip hop, the Awesome II. The Awesome II have hosted the longest running radio program in hip-hop history (1981-Present), and were instrumental in spreading the genre in and beyond NYC. I've submitted an article (now under request for undeletion) 3 times, only to be told that my research doesn't count as sufficient, and that my primary sources don't meet Wikipedia's criteria. This has been frustrating. The last time I asked why, I did not receive a response. I'm hoping that asking for clarification in this project will help me get this article up to publication standards. It's hard to overstate just how much the Awesome II contributed to hip hop.

I've pasted the question I previously posted before for reference:

"I'm asking for clarification as to why a submission (Awesome Two) isn't meeting the requirement for notability, and help getting it up to standard. I've included citations from numerous contemporary sources (Billboard, Village Voice, Vibe, and Black Radio Exclusive) that are more than passing mentions, as well as evidence of historical import from coverage in histories, documentaries, and mentions references in song lyrics and on album covers (should satisfy this criterion: 1.) Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable music sub-culture).

As producers, the duo has sufficient production credits in their name to satisfy these criteria, "Has composed a number of notable melodies, tunes or standards used in a notable music genre; The recording was in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network."

Please advise on the status of these sources, and ways I can adjust the article to meet Wikipedia's standards.

One further question about sources: I wrote my Ph.D dissertation on the history of rap radio, and interviewed the Awesome II and their peers numerous times. I wrote a long chapter about their career and influence. I was told that my Ph.D dissertation does not count as a source (though this is Wikipedia's stance on the matter: Completed dissertations or theses written as part of the requirements for a PhD, and which are publicly available, are considered publications by scholars and are routinely cited in footnotes. They have been vetted by the scholarly community; most are available via interlibrary loan or from Proquest), and so removed the citation. I currently have a book on this history of rap radio in contract with Duke University Press with a full chapter devoted to the Awesome II. Do forthcoming works count as sources?

The Awesome II have made incalculable contribution to hip hop music. Please help me meet this communities guidelines."

Asian American hip hopEdit

Is there a particular MOS that I should follow for Asian American hip hop? I'm not really sure if the page is intended for hip hop music or culture, but as of now, it's just a loose collection of summaries of notable Asian American hip hop artists. Saying that it's a musical genre seems kind of iffy because there is no throughline outside of their ethnic background (unless there is and I haven't found the right source yet) — BriefEdits (talk) 18:00, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Please help create the page for the new Pusha T albumEdit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ackner2 (talkcontribs) 04:46, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sourcesEdit

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

  • John Smith "Article of things" Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[ Article of things]" ''''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

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Discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 May 6 § File:Diddy-DirtyMoney-HelloGoodMorning.JPEGEdit

  You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 May 6 § File:Diddy-DirtyMoney-HelloGoodMorning.JPEG. Marchjuly (talk) 22:58, 6 May 2022 (UTC)