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Was UkDrillas and/or the suspect also accused of going after explainxkcd? Because that seemed more like the Chinese launching their Hong Kong-fueled Streisand Effect Cannon. The Russian Conservapedia should be great. Good thing Intel is so heavily invested in Cloudfare, the endowment should pick up some of that. 73.222.1.26 (talk) 19:42, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm very glad @HaeB: wrote the section on the DDoS. It's the best write-up I've seen anywhere. Of course many techies might know many more sources on this than I do. During the attack (I only had minor problems, but they were noticeable) I mainly wondered "what would anybody have to gain by attacking Wikipedia?" Haeb mostly answered this.

As far as the Russian Conservapedia, if you mean the Great Russian Encyclopedia, it reminds me of the "Nedostroy" that I saw during the 1990s when I lived in Moscow. Nedostroy are buildings that were left over from the Soviet period that were "not completely built" or "not yet finished" and were probably going to stay that way. Most were poorly designed, poorly built, dinosaurs waiting to collapse from neglect. The GRE will likely be declared to be finished sometime, after copying large parts from the last Great Soviet Encyclopedia but nobody will ever say that it is the backbone of the internet. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 20:38, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

I was surprised that we don't have an article on Nedostroy, but I did look up an example on Google maps dated 2017 [1]. This building was probably in the same condition in 1993. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 20:56, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Yekaterinburg TV Tower is a good example of a Nedostroy. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 22:09, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

"недострой" (nedostroy) is a regular informal term for incomplete construction, not necessarily due to neglect or abandonement. Therefore there is no such article even in Russian wikipedia. Not only Russia suffers from abandoned construction projects. Heck, we even have a worldwide catalog of notable these, see "Unfinished building", and Russia is of minimal representation there. This neologism is based on the Soviet-era term "wikt:долгострой" (dolgostroy) - a construction project sluggishly dragging for long time.Staszek Lem (talk) 23:18, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

BTW: Great Russian Encyclopedia has nothing to do with the internets. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:03, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Cleaning up, or enforcing a preferred POV?

I'm confused by the triumphal tone used in describing XOR'easter's editing. I have heard many cases where our biased editors come to consensus against alleged right-wing outlets. I wonder if XOR'easter does much to clean up the left-wing rags being used as sources here? Chris Troutman (talk) 19:30, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

What 'left-wing rags' in the Hunter Biden article did you have in mind? Richard Nevell (talk) 21:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)