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Tsarist autocracyEdit

Could you place the following text back this anonymous contributor removed?

Also, it is mindbaffling how this article still exists, given the repeated discussions on the talkpage which all point at the poor quality of research by which the article hangs together (barely). 2001:1C02:1907:9500:5961:8A5E:9CFA:3884 (talk) 17:28, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

@2001:1C02:1907:9500:5961:8A5E:9CFA:3884: I agree the article is a mess, but the text you want to restore IMO does not have direct relevance to the article subject. Also the text "have pointed to a racial element in the concept" -s Wikipedian's interpretation of sources, i.e., a piece original wikipedian's research inadmissible in wikipedia. 17:42, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

AS I understand it, the original writer of the piece pointed at some authors that highlighted figures, like Kennan and other US Cold War historians/policy makers, who basically said that the 'concept' or 'model' is part of the Russian race/ethnicity. This was the argument of the authors, not so much of the original writer here. At least, that's how I read the references. But again, I find that a great deal of the sources there could be dismissed as irrelevant and non-specialist. But hey, what do you expect, when everyone who knows his way around with a keyboard and google thinks he's an academic specialist? Googling some terms, not reading the actual works to understand why the terms are mentioned, not grasping the debate, apparently stands for encyclopedic integrity here. 2001:1C02:1907:9500:6979:A7F1:7DD3:F83C (talk) 08:21, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

"Hands of God/Heaven"Edit

Hi, I will be thankful if you will stop deleting word "Heaven" from that article. --Wojsław Brożyna (talk) 09:10, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


Hi, would you mind un-blanking the dab page so we can at least finish it out properly before deciding what to do with it? Many thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:39, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Might be of interest to youEdit

Talk:"Polish death camp" controversy#Vote.--APStalk 19:12, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

January 2018Edit

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Dnipro editsEdit

Don't revert my edits, please. Check the format of edits, I changed only the links, not the showed name of the city. Ales sandro (talk) 22:35, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Croatian censusEdit

Please note that Croatian census is an official position and your opinion is a private opinion, meaning Original Research (OR) in Wiki Riadder (talk) 08:29, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

@Riadder: -- Please provide a citation that vlach are "officially recongized minority". Did you realy understand what I wrote in you talk page? Staszek Lem (talk) 16:52, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, persistent vandalism. I fixed the SPI. Give any input there, thanks.--Zoupan 00:33, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

You edit to "Polish death camp" controversyEdit

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Your reversions to "Polish death camp" controversyEdit

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Hi. You removed my information on Raróg used in CD Projekt logo claimning it was an false statement... but it was not. See the Polish version of the news: "W dniu 14 maja br. Raróg staje się podstawą nowej identyfikacji wizualnej studia [...]" SMiki55 (talk) 00:17, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

@SMiki55: My edit summary says "(rm false statement, based on misreading of the source)" . The statement of the band says that their logo is Northern Cardinal. The band quote further says: "red color <...> we share with one more being: Rarog". (the stricken text is directly from Polish. English language version is even more blunt: "The colour, cardinal RED, is something that connects it with another bird <...>Rarog". I.e. that Rarog is logo is a fantasy of the author of the article. The logo itself has nothing to do with traditional visual representations of Rarog (of course, they are fantasies themselves :-). Staszek Lem (talk) 17:33, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
The sentence "W dniu 14 maja br. Raróg staje się podstawą nowej identyfikacji wizualnej studia [...]" (On May 14th the Raróg becomes the basis for a new visual identification of the studio [...]) clearly refers to the logo as Raróg IMHO. SMiki55 (talk) 18:53, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
@SMiki55: IMHO I clearly wrote this is an (uneducated) opinion of the person who wrote the article, not of the band. The image is clearly NOT Rarog as everybody understands Rarog. Who do you think more reliable source: the article writer or the band themselves who clearly wrote another bird? Staszek Lem (talk) 19:57, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Merger discussion for BayesianEdit

An article that you have been involved in editing—Bayesian—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:11, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Continuation WarEdit

Thx for the edits at Winter War! Mind looking at the lede of Continuation War as well? I recently built it up for GA nomination and it's going through a GOCE c/e now, but could use more opinions on streamlining the lede. Manelolo (talk) 23:37, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


Cześć Staszek Lem! Just a brief note to say that I have closed a Request for Comment you initiated, at Talk:"Polish_death_camp"_controversy#RFC_on_"misnomer". Miłego dnia, Fish+Karate 13:48, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer FlagEdit

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Conflation of Nav/Rusalka into BoginkaEdit


Hope you're doing well. Just wanted to let you know that the user Eckhardt Etheling has tried to merge the article Nav (Slavic folklore) into Boginka too, just like what they did with Rusalka. Seems like they want to convert all somewhat related existing articles into their own new one - under some obscure term. Just thought I'd let you know in case they keep trying this with those two or other pages, I'm not very active on Wikipedia lately.

--Samotny Wędrowiec (talk) 14:31, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

I am not trying to merge articles in those done by me. Just, what is the meaning of keeping poorly sourced articles like Rusalka (which has a lot of unsourced information and I have verified that even some sourced parts do not report what sources actually say) and Mavka (which is just a dialectal variant of Navia/Navka)? They are both variants of the Nymph-like beings called Boginka.--Eckhardt Etheling (talk) 23:12, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
@Eckhardt Etheling: They are both variants of the Nymph-like beings called Boginka -- who says so? In any case, please follow wikipedia rules: place the merge tag an wait for discussion. BTW, I know the mythology articles are disaster and I welcome your efforts, but we have disagreements to resolve. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:28, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you for the AfD and the plug on the 'Wehrmacht myth' op-ed at SS Marschiert AfD. Check out the comments too: Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2018-04-26/Op-ed; they are…illuminating. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:28, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

"not a competition"Edit

Hello. Here in this part of the sentence which you removed, I didn't imply it was a competition, and Kacprzyk came sixth, but that the other five winners of the award were those listed, willing to add some context for the reader (given that some of these names are blue links). I don't insist on mentioning these names, I'm simply clarifying the idea behind them. Also, I will add the inline citations at my earliest convenience, this is a rather easy task: I spent much more time on finding the rest of the sources, different from the own homepage. :) Bests, Spiritia 09:14, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@Spiritia: OK. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:25, 4 May 2018 (UTC)


Hello Staszek Lem. I see that you've changed Contiguity into a disambiguation page. Several articles link to that title. I've fixed the ones I could, but that leaves about 100 wikilinks leading to a dab rather than directly to an article. Most of them are about land contiguity (not covered by Contiguous zone) but there are a few other topics such as computer memory (not covered in Contiguous data storage; maybe Fragmentation (computing)?) and genetics. Please can you help us to fix the links? Thanks, Certes (talk) 19:27, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

@Certes:. OK. I will take a dig into it. Fragmentation (computing) is a better redirect for "Contiguous data storage". If there is no article on specfic kind of "contiguity" and you cannot write it right away, IMO it is better just delink the term, since it is a rather generic one. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:51, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
PS. I noticed somewhere the term is likely misused, such as in Gawthorpe (ward). Staszek Lem (talk) 20:55, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Sir William Coates, 1st BaronetEdit

Please see WP:BARONET. Baronets are an exception to the rule about "sir" in article titles, as William Coates, 1st Baronet would be utterly incorrect. Note that the title is only added at all if disambiguation is required. If it was not, the article would simply be at William Coates. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

ACK. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:32, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

A project for youEdit

Could you look at this editor's edits, including the article they created?[1] As you can see from their edit summaries, they have rather strong feelings and antagonisms. After an initial block by NeilN and warnings by Drmies and a very stern one from me (do see their talk page), including a DS alert, they returned from their block unchanged. I don't trust anything they've done. They probably aren't all wrong, but I know that they are ignoring academic disputes on various of the issues they are dealing with and treating their beliefs as absolutely correct. If you don't have time perhaps you can suggest someone else who could. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 16:26, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018Edit

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Red linksEdit

A pop-up window warning me no to use red links appeared while I was editing a page on However it seems it's not an accepted policy by the community, so just ignore my edits. Best regards.--Carnby (talk) 16:59, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

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Reverts in human natureEdit

I am not sure what your concern is, either in a policy sense or any other. There are two sources named, and I think there is no disputing, anyway, that what they say (which is quite simple and very well-known) is uncontroversial and notable. You are right that it is vague, but it is obviously a stub section that eventually needs to be expanded. Keep in mind you are deleting a whole section. I think the policy logic has to be that used for article stubs. I propose that the correct tagging should be on that basis and the material restored for some future editor to build up more. But also I intend to post on the talk page and I propose that the main discussion should be there. Please explain any concerns there.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 09:53, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Tendentious editingEdit

Please stop reverting factual information, and instead putting in place information that can be inferred to suggest that Mr. Lem did see the 2002 film. Also, your edit summary is false and uncivil; it is not "original research" to state a fact. IF you have evidence that he saw the film, present it on the talk page. Do not add content that clearly implies that Mr. Lem saw the film later. Anastrophe (talk) 16:41, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

@Anastrophe: This is possibly my inadequate knowledge of English. In my language "doing something before seeing" means "doing without seeing" and does not imply the he saw it later. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:53, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Perhaps that is it. 'Before' means 'previous to X'. So 'previous to seeing the film', which implies having seen it later. It is the potential for inference tht was the problem. Anastrophe (talk) 17:01, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Your version of the article says "there is no evidence". A wikipedian cannot possibly know all possible evidence, therefore this is original research. This logical trap has been discussed in Wikipedia countless times. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:53, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I agree, it was inaccurate. At best it should have read 'we don't know if Lem ever saw the film, however...' - but even that is imprecise. Your new version is best. Anastrophe (talk) 17:01, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your new edit. It is superior to both your previous edit, and my edits. Anastrophe (talk) 16:47, 6 August 2018 (UTC)


Thanks for cleaning up the page (I was the IP that copyedited the page back in July and August). 2A00:23C5:2E01:FB01:613B:5533:D014:9939 (talk) 13:01, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Racism in India and the Sardarji joke listed at Redirects for discussionEdit

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Could you explain the vandalism regarding your edits on Longest Words?Edit

It seems you specifically went after languages from countries that were formerly in the USSR or in some way affiliated, this also falls in line with your other edits.

Your excuse of removing them because of needed citations does not sit well considering you did not remove Russian and a slew of other languages which also needed citations that you had edited previously.

Furthermore asking for references to translated sentences is absurd as a dictionary will likely not exist with that specific word structure. You're not translating A to B, majority of languages have fairly extensive rules that a single dictionary will not translate properly unless it goes into detail for very specific instances. Furthermore one citation missing does not justify the deletion of whole sections. What however does justify that is your track record of vandalism and your rampant excuse of "Well in my language..".

Please revert the changes or submit a valid reason. (talk) 09:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

  1. Please read and understand policy WP:VANDALISM. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:36, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
  2. Please discuss article content in article talk pages, where other editors may express their opinion on the problems you think exist. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:36, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
  3. Of course Wikipedia is encyclopedia which anyone can edit. But if you want to talk to people, not just edit, please get yourself an account or at least a fixed IP. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:36, 13 August 2018 (UTC):
How about you read the page yourself, furthermore you have avoided dicsussion in said pages and have a history of copypasting the vandalism page without understanding what it means, own up to your actions and revert the changes or explain your changes. You've been repeatedly informed and ordered to stop vandalising pages. If there is an error in a large section, You do not delete the whole section. You delete the sentence that has insufficent reference material. This is after atleast attempting to contact the individual who had submitted said sentence. Which you have not done, if I get another copypaste response then I surely hope you realize I will not stop. (talk) 11:19, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
I have no idea what you are talking about. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:50, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Then go on your respective version of wikipedia since english is something you struggle with. (talk) 20:38, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:TerraCycleEdit

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Very energetic, but...Edit

I'm wondering if you are not going too fast.

You create a page.
Then you move the page to correct the name.
Then you add the new name to an article.
Then you add the old name to another article.
And again.
Then create a page adding the new name.
Meanwhile, back at the original article, it still has the old name inside.

This also has me wondering... You created a redirect just so you could use it in a piped link, when you could have just used a piped link to the correct destination? I understand you were trying to distinguish between "The Catholic Church" (the religious organization) and "the Catholic church" (the building), but I'm just not so sure creating every possible redirect is a good thing. (That has been a problem for other editors at other times (they created 1000s) so I try to avoid that)

Maybe slow down a little bit and recheck some edits? Shenme (talk) 23:22, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

@Shenme:Er. No. I am not paid, so I will work at my own pace.
  • Andrey and Andrei are equally valid transliterations from Russian used in WP: All pages with titles beginning with Andrey All pages with titles beginning with Andrei. I moved Andrey Volos to Andrei Volos because I noticed this name is already used in Wikipedia. (I should have checked this before creating an article -- a hindsight wisdom) I have other things in my life rather than to observe petty consistency. Sometimes I enforce it myself when I am in the pedantry mood, but I will not loose my sleep over Andrey. I created his article solely because of [2].
  • You say you understand I wanted to distinguish organization from building, now it remains for you to understand that references to "church building" are used in wp:articles quite often. On the other hand it took me a non-zero time to find proper redirect target. It was not even in disambig page. Hence my redirect is convenient. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:06, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018Edit

Hello Staszek Lem, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

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Recently, I noticed your reversion of my edit to this article, which was deletion of the word ‘fortunately’. Apparently, you said that the Manual of Style doesn’t apply because it was part of a plot summary. Interestingly, in this instance, use of ‘fortunately’ editorializes by implying to Wikipedia readers who the good guys and bad guys are in the story. Additionally, as somebody who likes to root for the bad guys, I also think that its use also violates NPOV. Additionally, and purely from the grammatical perspective, it’s a dangling participle, and should be deleted for that reason alone, the same way that the first word in every sentence of this paragraph should be deleted.

Please reconsider your reversion, or maybe even better, rephrase the sentence to avoid the use of 'fortunately'. Perhaps something like 'The Skipper of Otters and Log-a-Log Groo rescue them, and bring a golden pawring with strange markings', which also makes the sentence active voice instead of passive.



Ira Leviton (talk) 02:26, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

@Ira Leviton:
(a) It is not a dangling participle; it is not a participle at all
(b) Dangling particles are not deleted; they are rewritten.
(c) The whole "Plot" section is one HUGE editorializing of the book by a wikipedian. MOS:PLOT and a bunch of essays cover the subject.
(d) If there are good guys and bad guys in the story, then a wikipedian does not 'imply' this, xe makes it clear, i.e., faithfully covers the story, just like in "brave squirrelmaid Triss", "his cruel daughter, Kurda" etc., etc. So, unless you have reasons to believe that the rescue was unfortunate, "fortunately" is a faithful summary of how it happened.
(e) The sentence has a larger problem than that: "rescued" - from what? But without reading the book one can hardly fix this. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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1RR for ARBPIAEdit

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Also, this. nableezy - 15:26, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

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@Nableezy: Thanks for letting me know. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:48, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Np, thank you for self-reverting. nableezy - 03:46, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

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Re: HanlonEdit

The applicable guideline is WP:NLIST. A subject must either have an existing bio, or you must show with reliable sources cited, that the subject unambiguously qualifies to have a bio. You have not shown this. Mere mentions in related articles is not sufficient. I realize things were not always interpreted this closely, but with the growth of Wikipedia and especially since the onset of SEO, it is now. And unfortunately, even with subjects where SEO is likely not a factor, like this, strict interpretation of the guideline is the norm. If you wish to make an IAR argument at the article talk, I'd encourage you to do so. John from Idegon (talk) 21:39, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018Edit

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Staszek Lem, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!


As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

Community Wishlist Proposal
Project updates
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  • There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
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NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018Edit


Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Staszek Lem,

Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
  • Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.
If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.
We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.
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Please do not replace long-standing articles with redirects without due process as you did with Gymnophobia. "Not a thing" is clearly not a valid rationale in this case, and your actions bear a strong resemblance to vandalism. Rklawton (talk) 12:38, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

@Rklawton: It was not me. Apologies for baseless accusation in vandalism accepted. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:23, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
PS. from history I noticed Jytdog block. A yet another sad example of a remarkable wikipedian getting a feeling of omnipotence and righteousness. As I see it started quite some time ago. I did have a couple interactions. While he had reasonable points he did come as a ton of bricks, so I just WP:DGAF him. 19:42, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
You'd think I'd know how to look at diffs by now. At any rate, you do have my sincerest apologies. Rklawton (talk) 01:30, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018Edit

Hello Staszek Lem,

Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.

Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.

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Can you please review this Wikipedia page? - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff at ODEM (talkcontribs) 08:06, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Discuss in the Talk Page?Edit

You edited the template questioning the notability of Naked Giants, the band has been referred and reviewed by Billboard, Allmusic, and The Seattle Times. Also, the band has worked with notable people such as Steve Fisk, Car Seat Headrest, and Ron Gallo. They are also on a major label. If you could explain the notability issues in the talk page that would greatly aid my ability to improve the article. Bkdb44 (talk) 02:33, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curatedEdit

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Test article (food and medicine) moved to draftspaceEdit

An article you recently created, Test article (food and medicine), does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Britishfinance (talk) 21:32, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

If US FDA is not reliable source for you, then you are free to request a RFC. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:53, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Lion VersusEdit

Hi. I'm confused about this revert [3] with edit summary "not in the sources cited." The language I changed it to was: "...a project of former members of...Nashi". The source says: "Some of the prominent projects of former Nashi activists are StopHam..." [4] at p. 322. The source doesn't say "...launched as a subproject of...Nashi", the language you changed it to. "Former Nashi activists" means they weren't part of Nashi when they started StopHam. What am I missing? Levivich? ! 00:51, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

I put the source back and changed prose to match the source closer. I trust that resolves it but please let me know if not. Thank you. Levivich? ! 01:11, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Double pluralEdit

Why did you restore the references section? The article has no references, so why does it need a section header with no content? (talk) 13:23, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

@ Because this is a special section: articles must have references and it is an extra reminder that something is wrong. And it will save time to these good men who will add references.
By the way, if you want to edit wikipedia seriously and talk to people, get yourself user name, so that next time you edit from different IP I will know I am talking to you. If you are just fooling around, just accept that experienced wikipedians know what they are doing with your edits. Of course you may ask questions, out of curiosity, which is good, and I did answer you, but just don't start reverting people, as many brave IP editors do, you will be blocked from editing, after wasting several wikipedians' time.
In any case, your edits aimed at improving wikipedia are very welcome, despite by a bit grumbling tone. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:47, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
  Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors. Thank you. (talk) 19:23, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, my experience shows I cannot expect a good faith from a random IP. Still, I answered you question, I did not insult you, I just warned you about typical bad behavior I see from IPs 90% of the time when I revert them. Also, if you don't want to have a user name, it means you don't respect other wikipedians, you only respect your whim to create communication inconvenience for others. May be yours is a good, decent IP and in the future I will respect you, but I simply cannot remember it for longer than a week. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:24, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Cells scaffoldingEdit

Hej, I have just found your request for clarification here: Special:Diff/745361938 and I'd like to inform you I have added some explanation for the term: Special:Diff/881751621. I hope it meets the readbility level required by WP, but feel free to correct, if needed. I'd like to expand my note into a separate article, alas I'm not familiar enough with that branch of science. Wszystkiego dobrego. :) --CiaPan (talk) 16:22, 4 February 2019 (UTC)


Historia i fantastykaEdit

I just stubbed this and realized we don't have an entry for his interview with Lem... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:39, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Nationalization in PolandEdit

Could you confirm that you are ok with hook alt 2? Would be a shame if this is rejected from DYKing... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:03, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.17Edit

Hello Staszek Lem,

Discussions of interest
  • Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
  • {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
  • A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
  • There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.
  • NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.
NPP Tools Report
  • Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
  • copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
  • The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

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Rozmowy ze Stanisławem LememEdit

Done and DYKing. Through I am not sure if the best title is the 1st or 2nd edition? Do comment on talk if you want to move it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:14, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Chronic prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain syndromeEdit

Balog (genus)Edit

Dear Staszek Lem! Hungarian nobility consisted of kindreds (clans, in contemporary Latin term: genus plural genera) until the early 14th century, somewhat similarly to the Polish heraldic families. Most of the later noble families originated from these kindreds, so the definition of the Balogs as "family" is incorrect and not confirmed by the sources. Consequently, I reverted your move to rename the page. --Norden1990 (talk) 21:54, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

@Norden1990: - What about other entries in Category:Hungarian nobility which are called "... family" ? Staszek Lem (talk) 21:58, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
I do not understand. What entries do you mean? --Norden1990 (talk) 22:07, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
@Norden1990: Just look into the category. Entries like Dávid family, Hoyos family, see more yourself; "family", not "genus". By the way, why "House of Iturbide" is in this category? Staszek Lem (talk) 22:11, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Several medieval noble families came from the "ancient" kindreds, which had disintegrated by the early 14th century. For instance Báthory family originated from the Gutkeled clan (or genus), alongside other families. There is a category for Hungarian genera. House of Iturbide --> it's obvious error, they did not belong to Hungarian nobility. --Norden1990 (talk) 22:19, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

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The same cityEdit

Hi Staszek,

So you are from Białystok, like me :-) I see that your English is very advanced. Here, in Poland, almost everyone learns English, but almost no one speaks. Some of them have been learning English for 20 years, but can't say even simple sentences. Several years ago I decided to switch to English, still living in Poland, only to be "born again" in a second language. And indeed, it works. But the transition took many hours a day for five years :-) And even though I have no talent for languages, English is my passion now, and I am entirely self-taught. I prefer American English because it is more common on the Internet and to me sounds better. Correct American pronunciation is to me crucial, and maybe I already sound like natives. Of course I can speak English but I would not say that I am fluent. As for Stanisław Lem, I used to read his books, which were part of my childhood :-) Vikom talk 17:09, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

@Vikom: Mieszkam w Stanach już ponad 20 lat, jednak niektórzy wikipedyści wciąż narzekają na moją angielszczyznę :-(. I am taking it easy, because it was never my intention to gain a perfect command of English, neither in speaking nor in writing; I am leaving this to my children :-). Staszek Lem (talk) 20:00, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Now everything is clear except for one thing: I expected your response in English, not Polish. But at first you wrote only one sentence, in Polish. It wasn't until later that you added two sentences in English. So let me describe my first impression:-)
We are in the English Wikipedia, right? In addition, you are an autoreviewer, extendedconfirmed, patroller, reviewer, rollbacker, and have made over 49 000 edits. This is impressive! Your Polish sentence was perfect, but you could have easily written: "I have been living in the US for over 20 years, however some Wikipedians still complain about my English." Then, why didn't you do it? I am shocked. What was the reason? Were you afraid that I might find some mistakes? I am only a self-proclaimed copy-editor who still learns English. You may well find mistakes in my discussions, which are readily available. By the way, if you find any, show no mercy and point them out. I will be very grateful :-) I wrote: "the transition took many hours a day for five years". Now I will confess that "many hours a day" means actually "10 to 16 hours a day". I know, it sounds crazy :-) However, I have never used any textbooks! It would be too boring.
Native speakers, especially well educated, rarely make mistakes, but they are not perfect, and some mistakes are typical for them. For example they often say: "often times", "the reason is because", "didn't used to be". And misplaced modifiers, like "He only died last week", are very common. Besides, there are also illiterates, who are native English speakers. Whenever I have a problem with expressing my thoughts in English and ask a native speaker to help me, he or she usually has exactly the same problem.
Now I see your text in English. Hmm, I thought that we had more in common. This is life. Regards :-) Vikom talk 04:37, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.18Edit

Hello Staszek Lem,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

  • Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
  • Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

Backlog drive coming soon

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May 2019Edit

  Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Solaris (2002 film). Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Eric talk 18:11, 30 May 2019 (UTC)


You have been blocked from editing for a period of 60 hours for violating the 3 revert rule. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

El_C 19:02, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Staszek Lem (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))

Request reason:

Sorry, I did not violate 3RR. If you look into edit history carefully, each time I removed a different piece of unreferenced text unreferenced part of the article, from different bullets and sections. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:31, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Accept reason:

I make errors, three. This is one of them. You are right — that's my mistake. If text was merely longstanding, then that's not a revert. Unblocked with apologies. El_C 20:01, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

(Non-administrator comment) You may like to have a look at WP:3RR again, specifically the part "whether involving the same or different material". I am not necessarily a fan of bright-line rules, but the community has agreed upon it. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:35, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
In any case, the comment each time I removed a different piece of unreferenced text is clearly wrong. stwalkerster (talk) 19:45, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
What is wrong in removing different non-related unreferenced texts? It is not that I was removing different pieces of the same text chunk. This of course would look ugly. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:48, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes, the policy says "the 3RR says an editor must not perform more than three reverts, in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material". I was not reverting "same or different text; I was removing different pieces sitting there tagged since March 2018. Under your interpretation a rogue page owner may effectively block any edits of a article. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:54, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Staszek Lem, I'm commenting here because I value your contributions. I'd like to point two things out before this gets potentially problematic.
  • Although an experienced editor may not consider it to be necessary, reading the above-linked guide to submitting an unblock request may make you reconsider the request. Removing it yourself instead of having an administrator decline it may be beneficial, but I am not in a position to ask you to do so.
  • The German term military night may be relatively unfamiliar here, but it has an article here too.
Finally, I'd like to thank you for being a constructive editor who happened to make a mistake and is very likely able to learn from it. I make errors too. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:58, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
I guess I'll need to have a closer look as the unblock request was now accepted with an apology by the blocking administrator. Please disregard my advice. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:06, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

@El C: I'm not saying the unblock was unjustified; I believe it to be justified mainly because Staszek Lem is very unlikely to continue reverting. I'm questioning the reason given for the unblock, however, as it does not seem to have been a mistake.

But well, in the end, this is just me trying to justify my above advice, hoping not to look too bad myself. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:25, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

<sigh>, well, shit happens. Anyway, I will not edit the article until the OP has chance to answer in the article talk page. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:52, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
ToBeFree, hah! I appreciate that. Perhaps I shouldn't be so trusting. I won't re-block, but I will note it in the block log. El_C 21:34, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Staszek Lem, feel free to use the talk page (I have unblocked the other user now to be even-handed), but please do not edit the article itself in any way for 60 hours. Looks like my incompetence is your good fortune. El_C 21:48, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

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This RfC is about moving the content to another section. A split would not work because all the health effects about IQOS is in the heat-not-burn article. QuackGuru (talk) 18:23, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Antonio Zamora article - when wikilinking you better check where the link leadsEdit

Just to clarify, I noticed that the wikilink to the Cycle basis page had been removed, without any mention; I thought that maybe it was in error, or you hadn't seen the single sentence on that page referring to SSSR. I am aware that the SSSR link goes to a disambiguation page, and then onto the Cycle basis page, but thought that would at least make it clear where it was intended to refer to. The only reason I added the wikilink to the Cycle basis page in the first place was that it uses a citation from Zamora. However since SSSR unfortunately doesn't have a page of its own I will leave it off. Ray3055 (talk) 21:01, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:PolyphenolEdit

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Vocal hiccup listed at Redirects for discussionEdit

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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019Edit

Hello Staszek Lem,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.


Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.


The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.

Move to draft

NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.

Notifying users

Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.


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Сolumnar basalt listed at Redirects for discussionEdit

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Please comment on Talk:Electric smoking systemEdit

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Null Result/Nullus ResultusEdit

Hello. May I ask why you removed this bit from the Null Result page?

"The term is popularly given as the translation of the scientific Latin nullus resultarum, meaning "no consequence", but this is actually grammatically incorrect and not the phrase's origin. The correct Latin would be nullus resultus."

The Latin matter had already been discussed here:

I will change it back in the meantime.

Thank you, Issacus Issacus Divus (talk) 01:03, 25 July 2019 (UTC)


(moved from my talk page to Talk:Null result)

Please comment on Talk:Electric smoking systemEdit

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Your edit to HasanaginicaEdit

I restored your edit to this article. It was caught in-between a few edits by an IP editor that were not improvements and got mass reverted. Sorry about the inconvenience. Best, Jip Orlando (talk) 21:23, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:U.S. Route 131Edit

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Your revert to Hanlon's razorEdit

Hi, how do you figure that this is correct?

Screenshot DJ Doena (talk) 19:35, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

@DJ Doena: See Talk:Hanlon's_razor#Earlier_attributions. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:05, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Satoshi NakamotoEdit

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A goat for you!Edit

Thank you for taking the Boy next door argument to RfD - I hate to be insistent like that, and thank you for being civil. Cheers!

‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 12:50, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:DuodecimalEdit

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About your move at Black OceansEdit

I don't think we should move articles on books to English title if no official English title exists? (If you reply here, please WP:ECHO me, TIA). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:59, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@Piotrus: We better discuss the issue at WT:TITLE. Let me peruse this guideline first. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:34, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Even more relevant: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:21, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019Edit

Hello Staszek Lem,


Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.


A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

Deletion tags

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Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.

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Please comment on Talk:Noah KraftEdit

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Please comment on Talk:CenturyEdit

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Talk:Ore MountainsEdit

Hi Staszek, thank you for your interest in the Ore Mountains debate. Reading your comment, it sounds as if you are in favour of keeping the English name rather than moving to the German name. If so, you need to vote Oppose rather than support. HTH. Bermicourt (talk) 17:32, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


My apologies for the erroneous warning. I didn’t realize you made a mistake. --IanDBeacon (talk) 15:55, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


Hi, Staszek

I have a question to you (Polish is my native language but I do not speak English pretty well). Could you see here? What do you think about this transtaltion from PLwiki? Currently I am having hard time to get this article better because of I can not write in English in literary way and I do not know mechanism of ENwiki quit good which is other than on Polish Wikipedia. Anyway the article is nearly already. Could you help me improve the three references and describtion of the photos? Cheers Dawid2009 (talk) 21:29, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

@Dawid2009: I will see what I can do. Which three references are you talking about? Staszek Lem (talk) 18:43, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

pl:Najświętsza Maryja Panna Królowa Polski/User:Dawid2009/The Most Holy Virgin Mary, Queen of Poland - 5, 9, 10 - This is my translation from PL and these references do not work. Dawid2009 (talk) 19:36, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
I am very thankfull for your work and your dedicating time with good faith. You even made categories which do not exist on Polish Wikipedia. You surprised me with so much improvement. Best regards for you ! Dawid2009 (talk) 20:59, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:BMW 3 Series (E36)Edit

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Math (song)Edit

I added several sources to New Math (song). I think it's clear that the song is notable on its own now. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 04:36, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:BMW M3Edit

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A Stanislaw Lem ReaderEdit

Thanks, this was on my list of articles to create :) I've added one more academic source, I think we should be able to expand it into a WP:DYK :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:23, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Piotrus: Sorry, I do not like WP:DYK. I am editing for fun, not for glory of wikipedia. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:30, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Requested moveEdit

Requested moves can only be reopened by the closer and only after discussion. So please talk to me and tell me what you think is the best way to proceed. P. I. Ellsworthed. put'r there 21:11, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/NoticeboardEdit

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New Page Review newsletter November 2019Edit

Hello Staszek Lem,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 723 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.


Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.

This month's refresher course

Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.

  • It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
  • It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
Reviewer Feedback

Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13.

Second set of eyes
  • Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
  • Do be sure to have our talk page on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
Arbitration Committee

The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights.

Community Wish list

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