Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/May 2015

Drive starts in nine hours

The May drive starts in nine hours. Let's have a great one! – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

P.M.S.A.P.T.H.S.S Kakkove

Should the name of this article P.M.S.A.P.T.H.S.S Kakkove include the periods, or not?--DThomsen8 (talk) 12:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

These kinds of articles drive me crazy. I was going to say that it depends on the spelling in RS but of course there are none, reliable or otherwise :-). Since the periods are omitted in what I laughably call the lead, I'd say take 'em out (I was hoping there was an article under the old name so they could be merged, but there's not). All the best, Miniapolis 13:37, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

H.S.S at the end (I love how the last period is omitted) is doubtless "Higher Secondary School", but God only knows what the rest stand for (or why a one-sentence stub created yesterday would be tagged for copyediting, but that's another issue :-)). All the best, Miniapolis 13:43, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

I marked it with a CSD tag after looking for any source describing or mentioning this apparent school. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:08, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

It's moot now, but perhaps PROD or AFD might have been a better choice. A7 makes an exception for educational institutions, and speedy deletion in this case may have been a bit bitey. The inherent-notability consensus for schools seems to be changing, though, and it's a judgment call like lots of stuff around here. Thanks for looking for sources. All the best, Miniapolis 02:22, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

I didn't see that. That's a strange exception. I did look for sources, and I didn't find anything even remotely reliable referring to the existence of this school, let alone its characteristics. I would think that even for an alleged school, one would need to find some kind of source that verified the existence of the school, and I didn't find anything resembling an RS, or even a source that spelled out the unabbreviated name of the school, in the first three pages of google hits. In short, I feel a little bad (but only a little) about tagging it with A7 instead of PRODding it. I hope I can sleep tonight. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:48, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

You're right; I think the exception has to do with the inherent-notability-of-schools thing. It's a dilemma—if we don't nuke godawful articles shortly after creation they tend to be forgotten, but it's kind to give a new article (especially one by a new editor, but I don't know if that's the case here) a couple of days. However, there's no way for another editor to find sources if the title itself is unintelligible. All the best, Miniapolis 13:30, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Just checked; the editor is new and a student (personal info was revision-deleted), so I welcomed them. They seem to be creating articles about their area. Miniapolis 13:39, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

How did you welcome them? I don't see my usual tag for welcomes on talk pages.--DThomsen8 (talk) 19:24, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

PS:Outdent used above.--DThomsen8 (talk) 19:25, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Here. Miniapolis 23:35, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

I've spent too much time solving the part before "H.S.S(.)", but I think that the expanded name of the school is Pathiya Maliyekkal Sayyid Ahmed Pookoya Thangal Higher Secondary School, if that helps anyone in the future. Dhtwiki (talk) 02:46, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Good detective work! Thanks and all the best, Miniapolis 13:24, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Clarification: Qualifying articles for current drive

(A naiive question!) For the current backlog elimination drive, should participants list only copyedit-tagged and request-for-copyedit articles for which copyediting has been completed, or any article(s) (including untagged) copyedited during the drive period? Thanks, in advance, for answering! Laatu (talk) 03:58, 16 May 2015 (UTC)Laatu

The former. Only tagged or requested articles count for the drive. Cheers, Tdslk (talk) 07:12, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Freezing toilet

Should Freezing toilet get more copyediting done? I did a small amount, but mostly did references and talk page. (105 words) --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:03, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Some articles need a little, and others need a lot; when it's done, it's done :-). Miniapolis 23:40, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, I will consider it done.--DThomsen8 (talk) 02:14, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Acting Witan of Mercia

The Acting Witan of Mercia article has a copy edit|for=Factual check, irrelevant information and tone|date=May 2015 tag. I would not expect the GoCE to do fact checking, or to figure out what is relevant or not. The tone seems fairly factual in reporting a radical political group. What should we do? --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:12, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Articles are sometimes tagged for "copy editing" with a note asking for something other than copy editing. I usually edit the copy if it is reasonable to do so – sometimes the article is not ready for copy editing – and then remove the copy edit tag. I sometimes replace the copy edit tag with a more appropriate tag. See WP:Template messages/Cleanup for a page of useful tags. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:31, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Just 75 articles to get to our all-time low article count!

We started this drive with 2,627 articles in our backlog, and at this writing, we are at 2,049. That's just 75 articles away from our all-time low of 1,974, set in November. It also means that we have copy-edited more than 800 articles in the last 24 days, since well over 250 articles have been tagged for copy editing and added to the backlog in May.

Great work by everyone! If everyone reading this can edit four or five more articles in the next week, we'll hit a new all-time low. If we can knock out the 85 articles that currently make up the oldest two months of the backlog, that's even better. Go for it! – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:47, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Idea: go through transclusions of {{copyedit section}}. Eman235/talk 14:57, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

The May 2015 category also contains some easy pickings if a low backlog total is the goal. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Copyediting does most of the work, but some articles are being considered for deletion. No point in doing articles about to be deleted.--DThomsen8 (talk) 22:46, 28 May 2015 (UTC)