Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/September 16

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The September 16th entry says softball was invented on this date in 1887. It wasn't. It was invented on November 24, 1887. The Softball article says it was invented on the date the Harvard/Yale football game was played. This is true. The game was played on 11/24/1887. Thank you.

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: One-Two-GO Airlines Flight 269 (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Project Stormfury
Omitted: Grito de Dolores; Wall Street bombing; Allied invasion of Italy (ineligible—maintenance); Eurasian Land Bridge; Black Wednesday
Included: Battle of Harlem Heights (4th appearance, last in 2010); Italian invasion of Egypt (first appearance); Typhoon Nancy (1961) (first appearance); Sabra and Shatila massacre (8th appearance, last in 2010; 30th anniversary); Blackwater Baghdad shootings (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Mexico/Papua New Guinea (both: ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Harlem Heights; Italian invasion of Egypt; Typhoon Nancy (1961); Sabra and Shatila massacre; Blackwater Baghdad shootings
Included: Grito de Dolores (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Rezā Shāh (2nd appearance, last in 2006; rescued from Ineligible); Chester Carlson (first appearance); Malaysia (8th appearance, last in 2010); Montreal Protocol (3rd appearance, last in 2010)

—howcheng {chat} 03:39, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Reza Pahlavi; Chester Carlson; Malaysia; Montreal Protocol
Included: Mexico (rescued from Ineligible); Glyndŵr Rising (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Wall Street bombing (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Project Stormfury (first appearance); Eurasian Land Bridge (2nd appearance, last in 2011)
Repeats: Grito de Dolores (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 10:00, 15 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): 1988–94 British broadcasting voice restrictions
Omitted: Wall Street bombing; Project Stormfury
Included: Battle of Harlem Heights (5th appearance, last in 2012); Italian invasion of Egypt (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 75th anniversary)
Repeats: Glyndŵr Rising (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Grito de Dolores (3rd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Eurasian Land Bridge (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 25th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:39, 14 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Reza Shah (maintenance); Montreal Protocol (maintenance)
Omitted: Glyndŵr Rising (ineligible—maintenance); Cry of Dolores (ineligible—maintenance); Eurasian Land Bridge
Included: Typhoon Nancy (1961) (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Sabra and Shatila massacre (9th appearance, last in 2012); 1988–94 British broadcasting voice restrictions (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Harlem Heights (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total); Italian invasion of Egypt (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:42, 15 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Eid al-Mubahalah edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

@Howcheng: As I stated here, today, i.e. September the 15th, is Eid al-Mubahalah in Iran and some other countries. It did not go to the main page, but let's do it for tomorrow since tomorrow is Eid in Iraq (See the difference between here and here). I've made the required changes to the article. --Mhhossein ^talk 13:07, 15 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Malaysia Day (maintenance); Mexico (maintenance); Typhoon Nancy (1961); Sabra and Shatila massacre; 1988–94 British broadcasting voice restrictions
Included: Malaysia (10th appearance as blurb, last in 2013); Eurasian Land Bridge (4th appearance, last in 2015); Nisour Square massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 10th anniversary); Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit (first appearance); Madge Syers (first appearance); Lauren Bacall (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Harlem Heights (3rd consecutive appearance, 7 total); Italian invasion of Egypt (3rd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:28, 17 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): East German balloon escape
Omitted: Battle of Harlem Heights; Malaysia; Nisour Square massacre; Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit; Madge Syers; Lauren Bacall
Included: Malaysia Day (rescued from Ineligible); Wall Street bombing (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Typhoon Nancy (1961) (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Sabra and Shatila massacre (10th appearance, last in 2016); Philip III of Navarre (first appearance); Marian Cruger Coffin (first appearance); Ahn Eak-tai (first appearance)
Repeats: Italian invasion of Egypt (4th consecutive appearance, 5 total); Eurasian Land Bridge (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:12, 16 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

@Howcheng: September 16 seems to be overwhelmingly biased towards the Western World. For geographic variety and for this article's historical importance per WP:OTDRULES, Black September, a conflict in Jordan, should be added. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:44, 15 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

1970 – King Hussein of Jordan declares war against the Palestine Liberation Organization, the conflict which became to be known as Black September.

Makeandtoss, Black September usually appears on September 17 and will appear this year. We do not feature the same article on more than one day. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 18:18, 15 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Makeandtoss: I had originally included a blurb about Malaysia, but a different editor removed it. —howcheng {chat} 16:13, 17 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Deleted: 1988–94 British broadcasting voice restrictions (moved to October 19)
Omitted: Wall Street bombing; Typhoon Nancy (1961); Sabra and Shatila massacre; Eurasian Land Bridge; Philip III of Navarre; Marian Cruger Coffin; Ahn Eak-tai
Included: Battle of Harlem Heights (8th appearance, last in 2017); Project Stormfury (2nd appearance, last in 2014); East German balloon escape (first appearance; 40th anniversary); Washington Navy Yard shooting (first appearance); Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Louis XVIII (first appearance); Katie Melua (first appearance)
Repeats: Italian invasion of Egypt (5th consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:12, 17 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Black Wednesday
New articles (ineligible): Mikhail Kutuzov (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Harlem Heights; Project Stormfury; East German balloon escape; Washington Navy Yard shooting; Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit; Louis XVIII; Katie Melua
Included: James Francis Edward Stuart (4th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Wall Street bombing (4th appearance, last in 2018; 100th anniversary); Eurasian Land Bridge (6th appearance, last in 2018; 30th anniversary); Nisour Square massacre (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Pandulf Verraccio (first appearance); Nadia Boulanger (first appearance); Karen Muir (first appearance)
Repeats: Italian invasion of Egypt (6th consecutive appearance, 7 total; 80th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 02:14, 18 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 Notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

The Day of Atonement / Yom Kippur is a moveable observance that occurs on the 10 of Tishrei, which is 16 September 2021.

Hi Howcheng, this should be for this year (2021) only, but not for future years. thanks.Jaredscribe (talk) 00:43, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Jaredscribe: A maintenance tag in Yom Kippur § Avodah: remembering the Temple service makes the article ineligible for inclusion (and also the "Temple service" section has very few footnotes). —howcheng {chat} 08:29, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (ineligible): Paolo Di Lauro (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Millicent Fenwick
Omitted: Malaysia Day (ineligible—maintenance); James Francis Edward Stuart (ineligible—maintenance); Wall Street bombing; Italian invasion of Egypt; Eurasian Land Bridge; Nisour Square massacre; Pandulf Verraccio; Nadia Boulanger; Karen Muir
Included: Battle of Harlem Heights (9th appearance, last in 2019); Typhoon Nancy (1961) (4th appearance, last in 2018; 60th anniversary); Mikoyan MiG-31 (first appearance); East German balloon escape (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Washington Navy Yard shooting (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Mikhail Kutuzov (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Miriam Benjamin (first appearance); Louis Réard (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:34, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

2022 notes edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Pandulf Verraccio (maintenance)
Omitted: Typhoon Nancy (1961); Mikoyan MiG-31; East German balloon escape; Washington Navy Yard shooting
Included: Italian invasion of Egypt (8th appearance, last in 2020); Project Stormfury (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Sabra and Shatila massacre (11th appearance, last in 2018; 40th anniversary); Eurasian Land Bridge (7th appearance, last in 2020); Philip III of Navarre (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Marian Cruger Coffin (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Ahn Eak-tai (2nd appearance, last in 2018)
Repeats: Battle of Harlem Heights (2nd consecutive appearance, 10 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

notes section edit

Latest comment: 8 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I find the eligible/ineligible sections extremely unwieldy, so just taking notes of potential interesting articles on talk.

Zhao Wei (gangster) (07:11, 1 September 2023 (UTC))

Vaticidalprophet 07:11, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

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