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Welcome!Edit

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A cupcake for you!Edit

  Welcome to the Wiki Portals project! Serenesage (talk) 17:32, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

PreciousEdit

Women Disobey

Thank you for quality articles such as Women Disobey, Pasha Patriki, VELD Music Festival, Bob Honey Who Just Do Stuff, for tireless gnomish work such as adding the date format to hundreds of articles, for saving for posterity – user with a delicious name, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

 
Women Disobey

I decorated my talk, thank you for the inspiration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

It is an awesome photo, isn't it? I knew when I read the words Women Disobey that I must create that page. It is sad that the story of the protests was eclipsed by the senseless shooting at The Capital Gazette. I am having trouble expanding it with Reactions and Aftermath. Two days later, there was another much bigger protest, Families Belong Together (you will love the main infobox photo). That got a lot more coverage. I also started that page and Jmaxfield18 just ran with it (great work!). Jmaxfield18 seems very shy to engage but follows advise, without responding or reverting. A great example of why not to pre-judge an SPA.
Hey, would you be interested in a colloboration project. I have many draft ideas at User:Coffeeandcrumbs/Drafts that I am think of developing. Any of those peak your interest? Or can you suggest something? I have always believe I learn so much when I work side-by-side with someone. It gives me a chance to ask why someone makes certain editing decisions and challenge my own thoughts.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 14:23, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
I love collaboration, but am not familiar with the topics and their sources. I will happily look shortly before you want to move a draft, - how is that? I have my routine of writing an article a day, and am 'booked' for weeks to come. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
I made it one of my examples, Template:User QAIbox/doc#women disobey, feel free to share. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:55, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

A year ago, you were recipient no. 1980 of Precious, a prize of QAI! - Moon, moon, moon, - excellent landing job! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, WOW! What a nice coincidence! Thanks for keeping in touch! --- Coffeeandcrumbs 11:09, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Astronaut portraitsEdit

An easy way to find NASA portraits is to go to this website, find the ID number, and search in the NASA Image and Video Library with the ID. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not; for the McCandless photo you uploaded, the search comes up with nothing, but for a different one it does (S82-36442). Figured I would let you know about the tool, even though it was not relevant in that particular upload, in case it helps you in the future. Kees08 (Talk) 05:42, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

THANK YOU! You read my mind. I really need those ID numbers. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 05:59, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Of course! When that does not work or I do not have the ID number, I use tineye to try to track it down. Kees08 (Talk) 07:06, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Featured picture suggestionsEdit

I will start a section here and list some options to pick from, you can use your discretion to pick the best. Not sure the etiquette on multiple nominations and all that.

Apollo 9

So many great photos to choose from. For EVAs:

Hardware:

If I had to pick one from this group I would probably pick Schweickart's EVA, thought I would give you a couple other options to consider as well. Kees08 (Talk) 18:21, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Million awardEdit

  The Million Award
For your contributions to bring Yuri Gagarin (estimated annual readership: 1,080,000) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! Kees08 (Talk) 16:55, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
  The Quarter Million Award
For your contributions to bring Mae Jemison (estimated annual readership: 250,000) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Quarter Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! Kees08 (Talk) 16:55, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Double the award! Congratulations. Feel free to add Gagarin to the WP:Million Award page as well. Kees08 (Talk) 16:55, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Faith: A Journey for AllEdit

 

Hello, Coffeeandcrumbs. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Faith: A Journey for All".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. JMHamo (talk) 08:19, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Yuri GagarinEdit

I've added a restoration. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.7% of all FPs 21:07, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

July events from Women in Red!Edit

July 2019, Volume 5, Issue 7, Numbers 107, 108, 126, 127, 128


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MP balanceEdit

You're not a bother at all; it's just not worth bothering with ahead of time. Stephen 00:00, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Stephen, I understand. Just didn't want you to think that I was yelling "IS THIS THING ON?!!?" If you catch my meaning. It is nice when things are nice but it's not the end of the world. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:06, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

FootnotesEdit

Die Entführung aus dem Serail, - can you perhaps tag sections and facts, not the whole article? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:34, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Done. I was hoping to avoid littering the whole page. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 19:45, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
A tag on top means (to me): you can't trust this article. The opera is a highly viewed page, it's probably fine even if not cited throughout. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:50, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
I bet all the sources are there but just need to copy the footnotes a few times. If you can and have the time, please fix it up. I want to add it to July 16 OTD. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 19:54, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

July 21 at DYKEdit

Hi, I wonder if you'd like to make it easy for prep promotion by doing a mock-up of the sets you want promoted on July 21 at the designated page (I can't locate it right now). Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 23:17, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

I have two options ready:
@Yoninah: Just waiting until Valentina is ready before proposing. Note that all of them are firsts in space, including the first Earthlings, the first cat, and the first "phone call" from the surface of the Moon.
If you could review Template:Did you know nominations/Félicette, I would appreciate it. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 23:53, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

With the TFA RFC closed as no consensus, I assume we proceed with the planned Neil Armstrong TFA, the DYK articles we have been preparing, Collins as the photo at DYK, Aldrin the photo at OTD, and the Aldrin in a spacesuit famous photograph as POTD? Let me know if that sounds right. I am currently working on touching up all the DYK articles so they will be ready. Kees08 (Talk) 07:59, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

@Kees08: Correct, that sounds good. We need one more hook. Talk:Luna 2/GA1 has the easiest chance of passing if you don't mind jumping on that with me. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 11:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Sure, I can help with that. I do not see Félicette in our mockup, are we still intending to run that? I assume you were just waiting for it to get approved. The goal is to have Tereshkova in place of Jemison right? Kees08 (Talk) 18:20, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
@Kees08: I think we should have as many women as possible. I would rather replace David Scott as that was a second IAR, the other being Collins. I want to have as few IAR as possible. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 18:34, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Okay! Could you make one of the sample DYK pages our ideal page so I can help you finish knocking out whatever is needed? My next two weeks will be preparing for the anniversary (along w/ working on my ongoing reviews). Kees08 (Talk) 20:30, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Valentina Tereshkova and Luna 2 are the only ones that need more work. Which ever of the two we can pass thru GA. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 22:10, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Also, not sure what to do about it, but seeing Aldrin's portrait with the colors adjusted next to Collins' and Armstrong's images without any color adjustment is pretty jarring (specifically the color of the Moon). Kees08 (Talk) 18:25, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
I am going to update Buzz and Neil's portraits too. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 18:34, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
@Kees08: which of the two Félicette hooks do you prefer so I can add it to the mockup. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 20:34, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
I prefer alt1 because it is interesting, and is probably the reason why most people have never heard of her before. Distinguishes the main difference between the French and Soviet/US approaches to biological payloads. But I don't have strong feelings, if you do pick whichever you like. Kees08 (Talk) 20:41, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Kees08, it would also be nice if we started an article on the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11. If the news around the international celebration of the anniversary is big enough, we could have this article at ITN. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 06:43, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
I created Apollo 11 anniversaries and have done a real shit job with filling in information. I originally created it so I could cut down the information on the Apollo 11 page in the anniversaries section, and because it is full of recentism. Anyways, I think the 50th anniversary information should go there, and if it gets large enough that it warrants the fork we could do it then. As with 98% of my thoughts on wiki, if you see it another way and want to create the article no big deal. Kees08 (Talk) 06:52, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi again. I notice you included Maspalomas Station in the July 21 mock-up, but have requested a July 16 run date on the nomination page. Please advise. Yoninah (talk) 11:20, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
I have replied to your message at WT:DYK. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 11:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Yuri GagarinEdit

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Yuri Gagarin (1961) - Restoration.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 07:22, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of FélicetteEdit

  Hello! Your submission of Félicette at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 19:29, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

ITN/CEdit

Closing a discussion is not time sensitive. It is distracting to call attention to a nomination that has zero chance of being posted.

You are making no sense whatsoever. Go away. – Sca (talk) 02:06, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
@Sca: As this is my talk page, I can't do really do that. But you are always welcome here. Cheers. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 02:22, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Moving errors discussion to main-page talkEdit

Hi Coffeeandcrumbs -- Did you mean to do this? I can think of few less useful places to try to hold a conversation between a few regular main-page editors. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:03, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

@Espresso Addict: Go right ahead. I couldn't decide where.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 03:06, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Ronald McNair, Guion Bluford, and Fred GregoryEdit

An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status
Your image, File:Ronald McNair, Guion Bluford, and Fred Gregory (S79-36529, restoration).jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Armbrust The Homunculus 15:49, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK help requestEdit

I am looking for alternative hook suggestions at Template:Did you know nominations/Wolf-Dieter Montag. You're welcome to comment there if interested. Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 20:02, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Flibirigit, did you ever use that other hook I suggested? I completely forgot the name of the article. Can you remind me? --- Coffeeandcrumbs 20:05, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
It was Template:Did you know nominations/Lloyd Pollock. The discussion was resolved before I suggested other hooks. I appreciated your willingness though :-) Flibirigit (talk) 20:08, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Flibirigit, I think you have an OK one. The only other hooky things I read were the primary physician for West German athletes at the 1972, 1976, and 1980 Winter Olympics and At the 1978 IIHF general congress, he advocated for full face protection on hockey helmets for Under-20 players, to reduce face and eye injuries at the World Juniors --- Coffeeandcrumbs 20:38, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Those are fine with me. Would you mind adding them to the nomination? Flibirigit (talk) 21:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

PhotoEdit

If you happen by the Air and Space Museum, we could sure use a better image of the arming key. Kees08 (Talk) 00:04, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Definitely! --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:27, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Awesome! A high res-image of Sputnik they have hanging would be nice too. I looked through Commons for a good candidate and did not see any. I think the NASA cutout is garbage, the flash is distracting, and the resolution is not great. Kees08 (Talk) 00:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Do I need to worry about FOP? --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:37, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

@KellyDoyle: Hi, Kelly. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I notice you are employed by the Smithsonian Institution. I was wondering if you can help us contact the right person to give permission to upload this photograph and this photograph by Eric Long. They have the SI IDs 2007-13215 and NASM 2006-25353 and are photographs of two items related to Sputnik 1 on display at the National Air and Space Museum. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 10:19, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Michael Collins (astronaut)Edit

  Hello! Your submission of Michael Collins (astronaut) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:40, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Prep 5 (July 21)Edit

Hi, I hope to work on this set tomorrow. I notice at Wikipedia:WikiProject Space 2019/DYK/July 21/1 that you have two non-bio hooks in a row in slots 2 and 3, and two bio hooks in a row in slots 6 and 7. Can you move things around to alternate bios and non-bios as much as possible? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:46, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Yoninah, that's not in any particular set order. Just a suggestion. I wanted to avoid having two Americans in a row or having two Russians in a row. However, you can do whatever order. And if and when Tereshkova is reviewed, you have 1 alternate, you can run 9 hooks or you can save Jemison for a later date  . But I would rather not count my chickens before they have hatched. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 01:43, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
OK, if we run 9 hooks, we have 5 Russian, 3 American, and 1 French hook. I assume you're running Michael Collins in the image slot because he's connected with Apollo 11. But from a set balance point of view, it would make more sense to run with a Russian image (Yuri Gagarin is the most obvious candidate, though the hook isn't so punchy for the image slot) and then spread out the Russian hooks with American hooks sandwiched in-between. It wouldn't make sense to drop Mae Jemison because then the Russians will really take over. Yoninah (talk) 20:44, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Yoninah, if you look at the Main Page as a whole, I don't think it is imbalanced. Besides there is no rule against a DYK set that is heavy with hooks from a non-US country. It is probably never going to happen again. US-heavy DYK sets I think are avoided because it can happen almost daily if left unchecked. The likelihood of that happening with Russia is slim to none. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 21:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the main page mockup; now I see that the 3 Apollo 11 crew members are what pops out at you on the main page, implying the 50th anniversary. That explains everything. Yoninah (talk) 21:14, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
    Yoninah, full disclosure, you should be made aware of this RfC that ended in no consesus. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 22:49, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Valentina TereshkovaEdit

  Hello! Your submission of Valentina Tereshkova at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 01:46, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Zond 5Edit

  Hello! Your submission of Zond 5 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:32, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Prep 5Edit

Please be careful about editing the hooks in prep, as you have a vested interest as nominator. You can ping me or post a request at WT:DYK. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:16, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Yoninah, OK. Sorry. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:List of WWE personnelEdit

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:List of WWE personnel. Legobot (talk) 04:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Roger B. ChaffeeEdit

valereee (talk) 00:01, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Eleanor C. PresslyEdit

valereee (talk) 00:02, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Mercury SevenEdit

I try not to ask for too many favours, but I need some more reviews at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mercury Seven/archive1 or the FAC nomination will be archived. If you could drop by, that would be great. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:20, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Hawkeye7, an image review or just a top to bottom? --- Coffeeandcrumbs 20:27, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Whatever you feel like doing. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:48, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Hawkeye7, done. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:40, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Hawkeye7, BTW, here is page 1 of the "Tempo" article which shows a different title for the article. Not sure how you would handle it but I usually use the first page title. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34007740/chicago_tribune/ --- Coffeeandcrumbs 01:49, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

User_talk:Adam_Cuerden#Response_addedEdit

I've responded. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.8% of all FPs 01:46, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Japanese white-eye at Tennōji Park in Osaka, January 2016 II.jpgEdit

Doesn't look like anyone was going to tell you MER-C acted on your suggeston, so... Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.8% of all FPs 00:12, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Mice might be niceEdit

A neat hook for Felicette would be something like "...that the cat Felicette followed mice into space?", perhaps putting it in the 'quirky' slot. Probably way too later for that, something I was thinking about. Kees08 (Talk) 04:14, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Kees08, I don't want to rock the spaceship so late but that would have been funny. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 11:05, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
I think the thing that people at DYK were gravitated to was the image of a weightless cat floating in space. But you and I know that was not how it happened. She was weightless but not free. I am going to say Felicette is going to break some records, I promise you. All these hooks will be record breakers. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 11:51, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Michael Collins (astronaut)Edit

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sputnik 1Edit

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Mae JemisonEdit

 On 21 July 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mae Jemison, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mae Jemison, the first black woman in space, worked at a Cambodian refugee camp in Thailand and was a medical officer for the Peace Corps before becoming an astronaut? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mae Jemison. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mae Jemison), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Luna 2Edit

 On 21 July 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Luna 2, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Soviet probe Luna 2, the first human-made object to make contact with the Moon, began a trend of crash landing missions that continued even after soft landings were mastered? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Luna 2. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Luna 2), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for David ScottEdit

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Yuri GagarinEdit

 On 21 July 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Yuri Gagarin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that pilot-cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin, the first human in space and first to orbit the Earth, ejected from his descending spacecraft at an altitude of about 7,000 metres (23,000 ft)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Yuri Gagarin. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Yuri Gagarin), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Zond 5Edit

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Valentina TereshkovaEdit

 On 21 July 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Valentina Tereshkova, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova made 42 trips outside the Soviet Union between 1963 and 1970 in response to invitations she received after becoming the first woman in space? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Valentina Tereshkova. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Valentina Tereshkova), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for FélicetteEdit

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:04, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Visionary Barnstar
Dear Coffeeandcrumbs,

I just want to be the first to congratulate you for your vision and your perseverance to create the first all-space DYK set for July 21. In fact, the whole appearance of the Main Page is a credit to your pioneering vision. It just went live! Enjoy basking in the glow of your stellar achievement! Best, Yoninah (talk) 00:12, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Yoninah, thank you for my first barnstar ever! And thank you for your patient and diligent assistance in getting this going. I should say that just as much credit should go to User:Kees08 without whom this would never have been possible. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 15:22, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
And a special thanks to Cwmhiraeth. Your act of bravery did not go unnoticed!!! --- Coffeeandcrumbs 17:42, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Fannie Lou HamerEdit

D'ye think ye'd like to have a go at helping me renominate her? I'm worried that if my explanation didn't push it through the first time, it might not this time either. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.8% of all FPs 03:26, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Adam Cuerden, I will give it a go on Tuesday. Weekend is not a good time to start a nomination I have noticed. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 05:15, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
No problem! Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.8% of all FPs 20:10, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
It's not on a schedule, but could you let me know when this is done? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.8% of all FPs 03:20, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Adam Cuerden, I will let you know. I first have to integrate her into 1964 Democratic National Convention#Mississippi controversy and add the photo there. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 04:03, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Any progress? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.9% of all FPs 08:00, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Adam Cuerden, I am sorry but coordinating WP:OTD has taken all my time. I don't think a nomination would be successful at this times without including the photo in 1964 Democratic National Convention#Mississippi controversy. I have not had time to do that. I am really sorry if I held you up. Perhaps you can ask WP:WOMEN to help fix the convention page because I believe most of the EV of the photo is in that article. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 08:26, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Main page complimentEdit

Hi, it appeared to me like you did a lot of the work in planning how to recognize the Apollo 11 anniversary this week, and I wanted to make sure you saw a compliment from a reader on WP:VPM.   (I would have mentioned it where the discussions were but seems like there were many in different places.) Schazjmd (talk) 16:41, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

  • I agree completely. Great job with the Main page coverage of the 50th anniversary. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:28, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
21 July 2019
 
... with thanks from QAI
  • Joining the chorus: quality job on that project! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Well done, it was a great way to celebrate the anniversary. Stephen

OTD July 18Edit

Hey, I just wanted to point some issues with the July 18 update. Firstly, the 1949 event should have been left in; as a "significant" anniversary (multiples of 10 when <100, of 25 otherwise) it's supposed to get precedence. Next, there are too many 20th century and later events. So I probably would have put in 1290 or 1806, 1841, 1949, 1989, and 2012 (i.e., 2 repeats, 3 new). Lastly, and this one is my fault, Mandela already appears on a different day. Last year I had put him in for his 100th birthday, but he was TFA and I should have deleted that entry later, but I forgot. Other than that, you have been doing a great job with this. Thanks! howcheng {chat} 15:52, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Howcheng, should I ignore the repetition of Nixon on July 24 and July 25 and include him in both? Kitchen Debate and Nixon Doctrine have their 60th and 50th anniversaries, respectively. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 16:04, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Ugh, that's a tough one. Normally, no topic should get 2 days in a row, although it tends to happen for wars, so I usually let that slide if the two battles are several years apart, or if in the case of WW2 if it's say 75th anniversary for something in the Pacific and the next day it's something in Europe. Since this follows that same line of thinking, I think including both is fine. howcheng {chat} 16:09, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
I added a "When guidelines conflict" section to WP:SA. howcheng {chat} 16:48, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Howcheng, could you add Winsor McCay, Gertie the Dinosaur, and Little Nemo (1911 film) to February 8 and April 8? --- Coffeeandcrumbs 20:03, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Done. howcheng {chat} 15:58, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Charles BassettEdit

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Elliot SeeEdit

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Mandy Moore (choreographer)Edit

You were right! Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 10:45, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Sally RideEdit

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I would like to explain nonethelessEdit

InedibleHulk, I only changed your comment because it affected/changed how my comment appears.

My explanation of the problem in detail:
I will demonstrate below
* User A comments here.
*:User B comments here.
**I commented here.
This is the result
  • User A comments here.
    User B comments here.
    • I commented here.

I prefer to put a bullet to avoid the impression that I also made the comment made by User B. But I also want to ensure that it is understood that my comment was directed at User A.

When you inserted a comment like so
* User A comments here.
*:User B comments here.
:::You commented here.
**I commented here.
This is the result
  • User A comments here.
    User B comments here.
You commented here.
    • I commented here.
Instead of
* User A comments here.
*:User B comments here.
*::You commented here.
**I commented here.
  • User A comments here.
    User B comments here.
    You commented here.
    • I commented here.

Your editcomment inadvertently changed my comment by just inserting your comment. It annoys me to see the two bullets in front of my comment which I was careful to avoid but appears because a comment that was inserted after me was careless. My edit did not change how your comment appears when rendered. But your edit changed how my comment appears. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:30, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for such a clear and well-formatted answer. Almost makes my initial concern seem like incoherent gibberish in comparison. I'll remember this lesson forever! InedibleHulk (talk) 00:52, July 31, 2019 (UTC)
I turned it into an essay: User:Coffeeandcrumbs/Hanging chads and double chads. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 02:47, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Holy crap, I'm inspiring. Way to go, buddy! I can't say I saw it coming, but never doubted you could do it. If you want to write me in as the Goofus in your cautionary tale, I'd be honoured now that the terrible shame of it all has eased off a bit. But if you want to keep it a composite careless jackass, I'll understand. Other unfortunate double chadders still edit among us, and if they think you mean them, they'll take you more seriously. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:17, July 31, 2019 (UTC)
InedibleHulk, no need to single you out. It is too common of an occurrence. I have seen some of the oldest users on en.wiki doing it and   facepalm. I would rather link to it in my edit summaries when making a correction so it is productive rather than accusatory or used to ridicule. Now that you know how it works, I guarantee you are going to start seeing it everywhere. I am sorry (not sorry) to make you one of "us" (probably just me) that see it everywhere and can't help being annoyed and frustrated. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 03:40, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
I'll probably notice it now, and will try my damnedest to not relapse, but won't shoulder nearly the burden you must, nor take up the crown of thorns. I have my own undying peeves to preoccupy me. Capitalized common nouns, redundant subheadings, ampersands, alleged murders, "also", "would", "however"...hell, I tell you! InedibleHulk (talk) 04:10, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Wild Bill HickokEdit

Hi there, when you have a moment would you take a look at your recent edit at Wild Bill Hickok? Looks like a "citation within a citation" issue that I don't know how to fix (and wasn't 100% sure what was intended). It's at the end of the "McCanles shooting" section. Thanks! Jessicapierce (talk) 12:12, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Jessicapierce, will do. Sorry about that. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 16:20, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Sources needed for Days of the Year pagesEdit

You're probably not aware of this change, but Days of the Year pages are no longer exempt from WP:V and direct sources are required for additions. For details see the content guideline, the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide or the edit notice on any DOY page. Please do not add new additions to these pages without direct sources as the burden to provide them is on the editor who adds or restores material to these pages. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 03:34, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Toddst1, that is the greatest news I have heard on en.wiki in long time. Happy to provide sources! --- Coffeeandcrumbs 03:41, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Yup, those pages are a mess. Several of us are combing through them one-by-one. Toddst1 (talk) 04:04, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Concerning 2019 El Paso shootingEdit

The source did state what I put, it was in the video. I left a message on the talk page. Thanks, EDG 543 (talk) 22:34, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Chelsea Manning on 18 May 2017Edit

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Chelsea Manning on 18 May 2017.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 22:42, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Toni MorrisonEdit

 On 6 August 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Toni Morrison, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:26, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Guion BlufordEdit

An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status
Your image, File:Guion Bluford.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Armbrust The Homunculus 20:48, 7 August 2019 (UTC)


Wikipedia:Today's featured article/August 13, 2019Edit

I'm headed off to bed now ... let's talk about it in the morning. I've never heard someone say that 933 characters plus an image isn't long enough for the Main Page. Even if we could find consensus for that, it would be difficult to get every blurb between 950 or 975 and 1025 characters, while meeting the various constraints. There are other issues to tackle, too. All of the FA coords (including me) are happy to see people participating and having fun, so whenever someone makes an unexpected edit to a blurb, I strongly consider doing nothing as the first option ... but I'm not sure that's the best option here. Anyway, more tomorrow. - Dank (push to talk) 04:03, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Dank, yes let's discuss tomorrow. But perhaps in a more public venue. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 04:09, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Sure. From the edit summary, I'm assuming that the issue is the length of the blurb, so I'll ask about that at WT:ERRORS, but feel free to add other issues if you like. - Dank (push to talk) 04:18, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes, that is the only issue. I think Talk:Main Page is the best venue for this discussion. Just so you are aware of scope of the issue and all the significant changes that are relevant:
  • ITN has increased the number of recent deaths to 6 people which bleeds into a second line for most screen sizes
  • DYK has gotten a lot better at writing shorter blurbs and even considered going to 9 hooks because of consistent Main Page imbalance.
  • OTD has been often forced to reduce to 4 blurbs (perhaps limiting OTD to only 4 maybe the solution)
Looking through the Wikipedia:Main Page history, Main Page imbalance is a constant problem, often solved by adding an old DYK hook to restore balance day of. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 04:26, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Okay I didn't see this, I already posted to WT:ERRORS with a pointer from WT:TFA ... can you add a pointer from Talk:Main Page? If it's a persistent problem because of changing editing patterns, then adjusting the Main Page column width would probably make sense, but let's see what people say. - Dank (push to talk) 04:31, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
I will copy my comments there. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 04:35, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

MOS:TIES vs MOS:RETAINEdit

I'm afraid this date format change to Tigran Petrosian was incorrect since MOS:TIES only applies to a strong national tie to an English-speaking nation. You can't use it to justify a date format change for a biography of a Soviet chess player. MOS:RETAIN is the applicable standard. Quale (talk) 04:13, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

@Quale: Feel free to revert. I did not think anyone would object. I generally believe the Soviet Union uses date first but I do not have sources to believe that wholeheartedly. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 04:16, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
I did revert, but it's important that you not make any similar date changes to articles lacking strong national ties to an English-speaking nation. MOS:RETAIN prohibits the edit you made, whether or not you think anyone will mind. Also not relevant are date formats used in the Soviet Union, Armenia or Russia since they are not English-speaking nations. Quale (talk) 04:24, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Don't be a dick. Technically, you are the one who violated MOS:DATERET.[1] --- Coffeeandcrumbs 04:35, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

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Hermaphrodite (Nadar) imageEdit

D'ye think it's worth just shoving it into tomorrow's PotD? It's not like anyone's bothered to set up an image for that day. On the other hand, it might encourage some idiot to just pull it immediately. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.9% of all FPs 08:02, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Better to let it sit where it is at Template:POTD/2020-03-28 and let people get used to the idea slowly. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 02:53, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Princess Christina of the NetherlandsEdit

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