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The Xbox 360 is a video game console released by Microsoft in 2005. This is the "Pro" model from the launch line-up, which featured a 20GB hard drive, wireless controller and a silver DVD bezel. The production date of this unit is 2005-11-05, making it a very early unit. Of note is the gray on the hard drive at the top, which is very shiny and silvery. This was changed to a matte gray in later models.

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The image of Lyndon Johnson was changed to Image:Johnson Oath of Office.jpg --evrik 22:45, 25 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for pointing this out. -- PFHLai 16:02, 28 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (ineligible): Charles Grey, 2nd Earl Grey (last appeared in 2005, but got deleted somewhere along the way)
Moved to Ineligible: Assassination of John F. Kennedy (maintenance)
Omitted: Pope Symmachus/Antipope Laurentius; Dutch pacification campaign on Formosa; Boléro (ineligible—maintenance); Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit; Angela Merkel
Included: Blackbeard (4th appearance, last in 2010); Canut revolts (3rd appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Denver (first appearance); United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 (4th appearance, last in 2007); Orange Revolution (5th appearance, last in 2010)

—howcheng {chat} 13:09, 21 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

John F. Kennedy's death edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

I would like to know why his assassination is "ineligible" to be included on this day. Every year it is mentioned in the U.S.'s world news broadcasts, so I think it should warrant inclusion. — WylieCoyote (talk) 13:42, 21 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

There is a yellow-level maintenance tag in the External links section. Even if that's fixed, It will probably be still be omitted this year so that it can roll on for next year's 50th anniversary. —howcheng {chat} 17:20, 21 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Oh, I see. I missed that part in the guidelines #8. Too bad the tag is 18 months old and never been fixed. Thanks! — WylieCoyote (talk) 13:25, 22 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Cutty Sark (maintenance)
Omitted: Blackbeard; Canut revolts; Denver; United Nations Security Council Resolution 242; Orange Revolution
Included: Pope Symmachus/Antipope Laurentius (Symmachus: 3rd appearance, last in 2012 (also appeared on October 23); Laurentius: 2nd appearance, last in 2011); Dutch pacification campaign on Formosa (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Assassination of John F. Kennedy (7th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible; 50th anniversary); Angela Merkel (4th appearance, last in 2011)

—howcheng {chat} 07:43, 21 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Juan Carlos I of Spain
Omitted: Pope Symmachus/Antipope Laurentius; Dutch pacification campaign on Formosa; Assassination of John F. Kennedy; Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit; Angela Merkel
Included: Lebanon (rescued from Ineligible); Blackbeard (5th appearance, last in 2012); Battle of Wild Cat Creek (first appearance); Revolt of the Lash (3rd appearance, last in 2011; moved from November 21); United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 (5th appearance, last in 2012); Orange Revolution (6th appearance, last in 2012; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 08:52, 21 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Blackbeard; Battle of Wild Cat Creek; Revolt of the Lash; United Nations Security Council Resolution 242; Orange Revolution
Included: Dutch pacification campaign on Formosa (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Canut revolts (4th appearance, last in 2012); Juan Carlos I of Spain (6th appearance, last in 2010; 40th anniversary); Toy Story (first appearance; 20th anniversary); Angela Merkel (5th appearance, last in 2013; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:45, 20 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Pope Symmachus/Antipope Laurentius (both: maintenance); Mike Tyson (maintenance)
Omitted: Canut revolts; Juan Carlos I of Spain; Angela Merkel
Included: Blackbeard (6th appearance, last in 2014); Revolt of the Lash (4th appearance, last in 2014); Boléro (2nd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible)
Repeats: Dutch pacification campaign on Formosa (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Toy Story (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:42, 21 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Canut revolts (maintenance); Juan Carlos I of Spain (maintenance); Orange Revolution (maintenance); Angela Merkel (maintenance)
Omitted: Lebanon; Dutch pacification campaign on Formosa; Boléro; Toy Story
Included: Battle of Wild Cat Creek (2nd appearance, last in 2014); China Clipper (first appearance); United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 (6th appearance, last in 2014; 50th anniversary); As-Salih Ayyub (first appearance); Serranus Clinton Hastings (first appearance); Hans Adolf Krebs (first appearance)
Repeats: Blackbeard (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total); Revolt of the Lash (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:15, 22 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Denver (maintenance); College lacrosse (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Mike Tyson
Omitted: Battle of Wild Cat Creek; Revolt of the Lash; China Clipper; United Nations Security Council Resolution 242; As-Salih Ayyub; Serranus Clinton Hastings; Hans Adolf Krebs
Included: Pope Symmachus/Antipope Laurentius (Symmachus: 4th appearance; Laurentius: 3rd appearance; both last in 2013; rescued from Ineligible); SS Ville du Havre (first appearance); The Beatles (album) (first appearance; 50th anniversary); Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit (4th appearance, last in 2013; 30th anniversary); Johann Christian Reil (first appearance); Katherine Plunket (first appearance); Scarlett Johansson (first appearance)
Repeats: Blackbeard (3rd consecutive appearance, 8 total; 300th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:04, 22 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: China Clipper (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Max Headroom broadcast signal intrusion
Omitted: Blackbeard; SS Ville du Havre; The Beatles (album); Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit; Johann Christian Reil; Katherine Plunket; Scarlett Johansson
Included: Dutch pacification campaign on Formosa (5th appearance, last in 2016); Revolt of the Lash (6th appearance, last in 2017); Cairngorm Plateau disaster (first appearance); Francis Willughby (first appearance); Mary Boykin Chesnut (first appearance); Marjane Satrapi (first appearance)
Repeats: Pope Symmachus/Antipope Laurentius (2nd consecutive appearance; Symmachus: 5 total; Laurentius: 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:01, 25 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Wild Cat Creek
New articles (unused): Joseph Frederick Wallet DesBarres; George Eliot
Omitted: Pope Symmachus/Antipope Laurentius; Dutch pacification campaign on Formosa; Revolt of the Lash; Cairngorm Plateau disaster; Francis Willughby; Mary Boykin Chesnut; Marjane Satrapi
Included: Blackbeard (9th appearance, last in 2018); SS Ville du Havre (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Mike Tyson (3rd appearance, last in 2005); Toy Story (3rd appearance, last in 2016; 25th anniversary); As-Salih Ayyub (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Katherine Plunket (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 200th birthday); Asima Chatterjee (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 04:13, 24 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (ineligible): Baby Huwae (POTD for 2021)
Omitted: SS Ville du Havre; Mike Tyson; Toy Story; As-Salih Ayyub; Katherine Plunket; Asima Chatterjee
Included: Dutch pacification campaign on Formosa (6th appearance, last in 2019); Congress of Manastir (first appearance as blurb; previously was included as observance); Boléro (3rd appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Cairngorm Plateau disaster (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 50th anniversary); Joseph Frederick Wallet DesBarres (first appearance; 300th birthday); John Alsop (first appearance); Mick Shann (first appearance)
Repeats: Blackbeard (2nd consecutive appearance, 10 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:45, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

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