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The traffic light thing should be removed, it is disputed.70.246.229.183 01:12, 10 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Would you like to bring this up at Talk:Traffic light first ? -- PFHLai 07:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Something about popular culture?... edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago3 comments1 person in discussion

4 out of the 5 articles are about politics/revolution/armed clashes, the 5th is about science. How about the mix of topics as mentioned in the 'On this Day" guidelines? This day is the anniversary of the first time the words "Grand Old Opry" were mentioned either prior to or immediately after (will check sources before any "On this Day" claims are made) a radio-performance by DeFord Bailey. Shearonink (talk) 20:48, 4 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

I've sourced all the statements regarding this anniversary in the related Grand Ole Opry and Deford Bailey articles and am going to be WP:BOLD and change the present lineup per my statement above re: the mix of topics. Shearonink (talk) 13:59, 17 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

Also, noticed that this is the only eligible item with an associated image of a person of color. Shearonink (talk) 14:08, 17 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

2011 notes edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Grand Ole Opry, added by User:Shearonink (would have been first appearance), moved to Ineligible for maintenance reasons
Martin Luther removed, as it already appeared on October 31
Swapped out: Nobel Prize, Brown Dog affair, Edward VIII abdication crisis, Kaohsiung Incident
Swapped in: History of the metric system (first appearance), Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (first appearance), Calbraith Perry Rodgers (first appearance, 100th anniversary), Universal Declaration of Human Rights (5th appearance, last in 2009), Raúl Alfonsín (first appearance)

--howcheng {chat} 22:01, 10 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Omitted: History of the metric system; Adventures of Huckleberry Finn; Calbraith Perry Rodgers; Universal Declaration of Human Rights (ineligible—maintenance); Raúl Alfonsín (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: War of the League of Cambrai (6th appearance, last in 2009); De motu corporum in gyrum (2nd appearance, last in 2010); Nguyen Trung Truc (2nd appearance, last in 2010); Treaty of Paris (1898) (5th appearance, last in 2009); Sinking of Prince of Wales and Repulse (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:51, 9 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Comment: The unreferenced section has been referenced, plus other adjustments have been made so Grand Ole Opry should now be able to moved to 'Eligible'. Shearonink (talk) 01:48, 10 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Deleted: Grand Ole Opry (moved to November 28, where it had previously appeared)
Omitted: Constitution of Thailand (ineligible—maintenance); War of the League of Cambrai ; De motu corporum in gyrum; Nguyen Trung Truc; Treaty of Paris (1898); Sinking of Prince of Wales and Repulse
Included: History of the metric system (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (5th appearance, last in 2011); Nobel Prize (7th appearance, last in 2009); Universal Declaration of Human Rights (6th appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 00:03, 9 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: History of the metric system; Adventures of Huckleberry Finn; Nobel Prize; Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Included: De motu corporum in gyrum (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Nguyễn Trung Trực (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Ubu Roi (first appearance); Edward VIII abdication crisis (7th appearance, last in 2010)
Repeats: Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 25th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 08:52, 9 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Universal Declaration of Human Rights (maintenance)
Omitted: De motu corporum in gyrum; Nguyễn Trung Trực; Ubu Roi; Edward VIII abdication crisis; Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj
Included: War of the League of Cambrai (7th appearance, last in 2012); Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (5th appearance, last in 2013); Brown Dog affair (3rd appearance, last in 2010); Kaohsiung Incident (2nd appearance, last in 2010); Raúl Alfonsín (2nd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible)

—howcheng {chat} 08:00, 8 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Selma Lagerlöf
Omitted: War of the League of Cambrai; Adventures of Huckleberry Finn; Brown Dog affair; Kaohsiung Incident; Raúl Alfonsín
Included: History of the metric system (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Treaty of Paris (1898) (6th appearance, last in 2012); Edward VIII abdication crisis (8th appearance, last in 2014; 80th anniversary); Sinking of Prince of Wales and Repulse (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 75th anniversary); Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj (3rd appearance, last in 2014)

—howcheng {chat} 17:57, 9 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Ubu Roi (maintenance)
Omitted: History of the metric system; Treaty of Paris (1898); Edward VIII abdication crisis; Sinking of Prince of Wales and Repulse;
Included: War of the League of Cambrai (8th appearance, last in 2015); Nguyễn Trung Trực (4th appearance, last in 2014); Selma Lagerlöf (first appearance); Kaohsiung Incident (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Michael IV the Paphlagonian (first appearance); Olivier Messiaen (2nd appearance, last in 2017; also appears on April 27, his birthday); Diane Schuur (first appearance)
Repeats: Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: History of the metric system (maintenance)
Omitted: War of the League of Cambrai; Nguyễn Trung Trực; Selma Lagerlöf; Kaohsiung Incident; Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj; Michael IV the Paphlagonian; Olivier Messiaen; Diane Schuur
Included: Nobel Banquet (first appearance); De motu corporum in gyrum (4th appearance, last in 2014); Treaty of Paris (1898) (7th appearance, last in 2016); Brown Dog affair (4th appearance, last in 2015); Raczyński's Note (first appearance); Superman (1978 film) (first appearance; 40th anniversary); María Bibiana Benítez (first appearance); C. Rajagopalachari (4th appearance, last in 2007; previously appeared on January 26); Ziad Abu Ein (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 17:03, 10 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Deleted: Olivier Messiaen (already appears on birthday)
Omitted: De motu corporum in gyrum; Treaty of Paris (1898); Brown Dog affair; Raczyński's Note; Superman (1978 film); María Bibiana Benítez; C. Rajagopalachari; Ziad Abu Ein
Included: Encyclopædia Britannica (5th appearance, last in 2007; moved from December 6); Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (6th appearance, last in 2015); Calbraith Perry Rodgers (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Kaohsiung Incident (4th appearance, last in 2017; 40th anniversary); Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj (5th appearance, last in 2017; 30th anniversary); Nikephoros III Botaneiates (first appearance); Caroline Mehitable Fisher Sawyer (first appearance); Abdullah Yusuf Ali (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 16:34, 11 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Selma Lagerlöf (maintenance); Superman (1978 film) (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): Melvil Dewey (maintenance)
Omitted: Encyclopædia Britannica; Adventures of Huckleberry Finn; Calbraith Perry Rodgers; Kaohsiung Incident; Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj; Nikephoros III Botaneiates; Caroline Mehitable Fisher Sawyer; Abdullah Yusuf Ali
Included: War of the League of Cambrai (9th appearance, last in 2017); Nguyễn Trung Trực (5th appearance, last in 2017); Abdication of Edward VIII (9th appearance, last in 2016); Raúl Alfonsín (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Harold Alexander, 1st Earl Alexander of Tunis (first appearance); Sultan Kösen (first appearance); Vladimir Teplyakov (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:51, 12 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Stede Bonnet; Ann Gloag
Omitted: War of the League of Cambrai; Nguyễn Trung Trực; Abdication of Edward VIII; Raúl Alfonsín; Harold Alexander, 1st Earl Alexander of Tunis; Sultan Kösen; Vladimir Teplyakov
Included: De motu corporum in gyrum (5th appearance, last in 2018); Encyclopædia Britannica (6th appearance, last in 2019); Brown Dog affair (5th appearance, last in 2018); Sinking of Prince of Wales and Repulse (3rd appearance, last in 2016; 80th anniversary); Kaohsiung Incident (5th appearance, last in 2019); Ignatius Behnam Hadloyo (first appearance); Isaac Beeckman (first appearance); Jasuben Shilpi (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 18:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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