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El Primer Grito de Independencia

Moved from Talk:Main Page

"1809 – History of Ecuador: After nearly three centuries of Spanish rule, the first cry for independence was heard in Quito"

I find "the first cry for independence was heard" to be weasel wording. - MSTCrow 23:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

It's off the main page now so it is no longer protected. Feel free to change it at Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/August 10. --- RockMFR 02:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Weasel wording ? That was my (lame) attempt to "translate" El Primer Grito de Independencia, which is how the occasion is referred to locally. --PFHLai 03:41, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Passive voice does not necessarily imply weasel words. Weasel words have more to do with opinions than with historical facts, although I do understand your concern. Gracenotes^T § 03:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Surely someone called for Peruvian independence before then... -Elmer Clark 11:27, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

I hate to suggest something more weaselly, but how about something like: "Ecuadorians celebrate this day as the day when it is said that the first cry for independence from Spain was heard in Quito." I think that gets the meaning right, although with 3 or 4 layers of weaselness. Steve Dufour 02:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Tisha B'Av

Could someone who has the appropriate authority please add Tisha B'Av to the August 10 page for 2008. This is a very important Jewish holiday. Thank you. Manassehkatz 02:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I second this. The significance of this day should be in the article. Yaakovmar (talk) 02:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Most of the Jewish holidays that appear on these pages are posted when they begin at sunset. Thus, Tisha B'Av was posted on yesterday on Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/August 9. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:13, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I have seen many exceptions to that rule. Since the overlap between "sunset and midnight" with one day is far less than the overlap between "midnight and sunset" and the next day, it seems to me that it should be listed on the second day, not the first. That is the way most printed Jewish calendars are designed. Manassehkatz 15:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manassehkatz (talk • contribs)

I believe we had I similar discussion on regarding Purim on Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/March 21. It would be nice to know which ones should be put starting on sunset, and which ones should not so when these pages are updated for 2009. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

All Jewish holidays start at sunset and continue to the following sunset. In my opinion, that means they should all normally be listed for the latter part of the day, which would make them show as "today" for approximately 3/4 of the time instead of 1/4 of the time. However, there are a few mitigating factors:

1) For holidays where no work is permitted (Passover, Shavuot, Succot, Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur) there is some logic to posting on the earlier day as that would give a little "warning" of sorts to people who might be interested in observing that holiday as they wouldn't be able (if they are observing according to traditional Jewish Orthodox practice) to use Wikipedia after sunset.

2) As mentioned above, some holidays - despite lasting an entire day, have the primary observance at night. This is certainly the case for the first 2 days of Passover (Seder is only at night) and could be argued for Chanukah (candle-lighting is primary physical observance and is only said with a blessing at night).

3) Certain holidays are primary in the day and should definitely be marked for the day - Purim - 3 out of 4 rituals are only in the day, 17 Tammuz, Tzom Gedaliah, Fast of Esther, Tenth of Tevet - minor fast days are primarily observed by fasting from sunrise to sunset, Hoshannah Rabbah (last day of Succot) - gets its name from Hoshannos which are done during the day. Manassehkatz (talk) 19:08, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

St Laurence

Today is also the Feast Day of St Laurence in Roman Catholicism. He is, even according to the wikipedia article, ' one of the most widely venerated saints of the Roman Catholic Church. ' —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nalco (talk • contribs) 07:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

2012 notes

• Omitted: Battle of Lechfeld; Yekuno Amlak of Ethiopia; Musée du Louvre; Operation Camargue; Civil Liberties Act of 1988
• Included: Battle of Saint-Mathieu (first appearance; 500th anniversary); Expulsion of the Acadians/Bay of Fundy Campaign (1755) (first appearance for both); Battle of the Yellow Sea (first appearance); Battle of Tannenberg Line (first appearance); Murder of Adam Walsh (2nd appearance, last in 2009)

Lots of war articles (boo) but 4 first-timers (yay). —howcheng {chat} 06:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

There's a problem with the blurb for battle of Saint-Mathieu. The statement about it (possible) being the earliest battle between ships with gunports is no longer supported by provided ref.

Peter ^Isotalo 08:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Did some research on the article and rewrote the blurb. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 17:49, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

2013 notes

• Moved to Ineligible: Missouri (maintenance); Smithsonian Institution (maintenance)
• Omitted: Battle of Saint-Mathieu; Expulsion of the Acadians/Bay of Fundy Campaign (1755); Battle of the Yellow Sea (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Tannenberg Line; Murder of Adam Walsh; Magellan (spacecraft)
• Included: Lawrence of Rome (4th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Yekuno Amlak (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Battle of Wilson's Creek (first appearance); Operation Camargue (3rd appearance, last in 2011; 60th anniversary); Civil Liberties Act of 1988 (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 25th anniversary)
• Repeats: The Louvre (3rd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 09:23, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

2014 notes

• New articles (ineligible): Uruguayan War (TFA for 2014)
• Omitted: Yekuno Amlak; Louvre; Battle of Wilson's Creek; Operation Camargue; Civil Liberties Act of 1988
• Included: Battle of Lechfeld (955) (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Vasa (ship) (2nd appearance, last in 2010); Expulsion of the Acadians/Bay of Fundy Campaign (1755) (both: 2nd appearance, last in 2012); U.S. Steel Recognition Strike of 1901 (first appearance); Magellan (spacecraft) (6th appearance, last in 2012)

—howcheng {chat} 07:05, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

2015 notes

• Omitted: Battle of Lechfeld (955); Vasa (ship); Expulsion of the Acadians/Bay of Fundy Campaign (1755); U.S. Steel Recognition Strike of 1901
• Included: Battle of Saint-Mathieu (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Louvre (7th appearance, last in 2013); Uruguayan War (first appearance); Operation Camargue (4th appearance, last in 2013)
• Repeats: Magellan (spacecraft) (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total; 25th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:05, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

2016 notes

• Omitted: Battle of Saint-Mathieu; Louvre; Uruguayan War; Magellan (spacecraft) (ineligible—maintenance)
• Included: Yekuno Amlak (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Vasa (ship) (3rd appearance, last in 2014); 10 August (French Revolution) (8th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Murder of Adam Walsh (3rd appearance, last in 2012)
• Repeats: Operation Camargue (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:28, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

2017 notes

• Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Lechfeld (955) (maintenance); Battle of Saint-Mathieu (maintenance)
• Omitted: Lawrence of Rome (ineligible—maintenance); Vasa (ship); Operation Camargue; Murder of Adam Walsh
• Included: Uruguayan War (2nd appearance, last in 2015); U.S. Steel recognition strike of 1901 (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Heron Road Workers Memorial Bridge (first appearance); Al-Wathiq (first appearance); Alexander Glazunov (first appearance); Gilbert Parkhouse (first appearance)
• Repeats: Yekuno Amlak (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)p; 10 August (French Revolution) (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total; 225th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:30, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

2018 notes

• Omitted: Yekuno Amlak; 10 August (French Revolution); Uruguayan War; U.S. Steel recognition strike of 1901; Heron Road Workers Memorial Bridge; Al-Wathiq; Alexander Glazunov; Gilbert Parkhouse
• Included: Expulsion of the Acadians/Bay of Fundy Campaign (1755) (both: 3rd appearance, last in 2014); Louvre (8th appearance, last in 2015; 225th anniversary); History of aspirin (3rd appearance, last in 2015; moved from October 10); Operation Camargue (6th appearance, last in 2016); Civil Liberties Act of 1988 (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 30th anniversary); Madeleine of Valois (first appearance); Suzanne Collins (first appearance); Jennifer Paterson (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:31, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

2019 notes

• Deleted: Gilbert Parkhouse (moved to October 12)
• New articles (unused): Angus Lewis Macdonald; Adam Stansfield
• Omitted: Expulsion of the Acadians/Bay of Fundy Campaign; Louvre; History of aspirin; Operation Camargue; Civil Liberties Act of 1988; Madeleine of Valois; Suzanne Collins; Jennifer Paterson
• Included: Battle of Lechfeld (3rd appearance, last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); Insurrection of 10 August 1792 (10th appearance, last in 2017); Uruguayan War (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Heron Road Workers Memorial Bridge (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Murder of Adam Walsh (4th appearance, last in 2016); Al-Wathiq (2nd appearance, last in 2017); William Lowndes Yancey (first appearance); Alfred Döblin (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 17:08, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

2020 notes

• Omitted: Battle of Lechfeld (955); Insurrection of 10 August 1792; Uruguayan War; Heron Road Workers Memorial Bridge; Murder of Adam Walsh (ineligible—maintenance); Al-Wathiq; William Lowndes Yancey; Alfred Döblin (ineligible—maintenance)
• Included: Yekuno Amlak (5th appearance, last in 2017; 950th anniversary); Vasa (ship) (4th appearance, last in 2016); Louvre (9th appearance, last in 2018); Battle of the Yellow Sea (2nd appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible); Civil Liberties Act of 1988 (4th appearance, last in 2018); Madeleine of Valois (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 500th birthday); Antonio Banderas (first appearance; 60th birthday); Adam Stansfield (first appearance; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 19:43, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

• New articles (unused): Red Holzman

--PFHLai (talk) 08:58, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Missouri's 200th anniversary

The 200th anniversary of Missouri's admission to the Union is tomorrow. Given the number, I think this one should be featured on Main. Example of a blurb:

1821 – Missouri is admitted to the Union following the Missouri Compromise, becoming the 24th U.S. state.

Thoughts? Thanks. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:57, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Missouri is woefully undercited (and tagged as such) - Dumelow (talk) 06:21, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Per Dumlow, the primary reason why an article is highlighted on the main page is it represents quality work, and one of the minimum standards is a well-referenced article. The Missouri article suffers for that, and that is the reason it cannot be posted. We the article up to snuff, and were we given more than 4 hours notice, it may have been possible to add it. --Jayron32 11:00, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

2021 notes

• New articles (unused): Adah Isaacs Menken
• Omitted: Yekuno Amlak; Vasa (ship); Louvre; Battle of the Yellow Sea; Civil Liberties Act of 1988; Madeleine of Valois; Antonio Banderas; Adam Stansfield
• Included: Expulsion of the Acadians/Bay of Fundy campaign (both: 4th appearance, last in 2018); Battle of Wilson's Creek (2nd appearance, last in 2013); History of aspirin (4th appearance, last in 2018); Operation Camargue (7th appearance, last in 2018); Typhoon Lekima; Joséphine Fodor (first appearance); Angus Lewis Macdonald (first appearance); Red Holzman (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 15:47, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

2022 notes

• Omitted: Expulsion of the Acadians/Bay of Fundy campaign; Battle of Wilson's Creek; Operation Camargue; Typhoon Lekima; Joséphine Fodor; Red Holzman
• Included: Vasa (ship) (5th appearance, last in 2020); Sirius (8th appearance, last in 2020; normally appears on January 31); Uruguayan War (4th appearance, last in 2019); Queen's Pier (first appearance); Al-Wathiq (3rd appearance, last in 2019; 1175th anniversary); William Lowndes Yancey (2nd appearance, last in 2019)
• Repeats: History of aspirin (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total; 125th anniversary); Angus Lewis Macdonald (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:33, 16 August 2022 (UTC)