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Proposals, December 2010

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Splitting Antarctica

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Due to some heavy lifting by User:Dr. Blofeld, User:Александр Мотин, and li'l ol' me, Category:Antarctica geography stubs ballooned considerably a couple of months ago. I've been doing what stub-sorting I can, and have winnowed the parent category down considerably; this has, however, come at the expense of overpopulating some of the subcategories: Category:East Antarctica geography stubs and Category:West Antarctica geography stubs in particular. So my question: what is to be done about them?

I've been giving it some thought, and the best thing I could think of would be to divide them further by segments - for instance, {{QueenMaudLand-geo-stub}}, {{RossDependency-geo-stub}}, that sort of thing. It's not ideal, and I can see that it might leave a lot by the wayside, but it might be a good start at dealing with the problem. I am, of course, open to any better suggestions you have for this. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:04, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:37, 31 December 2010 (UTC) Support– Certainly a good way to reduce where reduction is desperately needed. ~Gosox(55)(55) 19:56, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

What about something like {{SouthShetlandIslands-geo-stub}}? That would cover a deal of ground, too. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:34, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
They (and all other subantarctic islands) are covered by {{Subantarctic-geo-stub}} already. Sounds like there may be some under-sorting between the antarctica and subantarctic geo stubs. Mind you, the Subantarctic category's at over 800, so it may be worthwhile at that. Grutness...wha? 04:28, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, there are currently something like 300-odd stub articles in the South Shetlands categories, as I recall. Add those to the sub-Antarctic category and it risks overpopulation. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:30, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
In that case, a {{SouthShetlands-geo-stub}} (note the amended name) is a very good idea! Grutness...wha? 10:14, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Suppport all four above named templates and categories when they pass 60 (some serious lifting going on there a cat with almost 2000 articles and 2 subcats over 4000 each!! - major sorting required) good luck. Waacstats (talk) 13:13, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I shall probably begin tackling them sometime this weekend, then. I may dig up a few more to suggest, too. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:40, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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Psychiatrists, part deux

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Having sorted a bucket-load of psychiatrists using the new {{Psychiatrist-stub}} and {{US-psychiatrist-stub}}, it looks like there's enough for a speediable category for the Americans. Well, not quite speediable, owing to ambiguities about the name - it's a partner of Category:American psychologist stubs but a child of Category:United States medical biography stubs. Given that the permcat is at Category:American psychiatrists, it should probably be at Category:American psychiatrist stubs, but I'm open to offers...

It also looks like a handful more upmerged templates would be useful, too - {{UK-psychiatrist-stub}}, {{France-psychiatrist-stub}} and {{Germany-psychiatrist-stub}} would account for around 30 stubs each. Grutness...wha? 07:01, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Support templates - and I'm in agreement with you about the category name. It's simplest, and simplest is often best, in my book. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:53, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Support, I would prefer United States but American will be easier in the long run and no problem with the templates or any other nation that you think would be of use. Waacstats (talk) 13:15, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
That was my thinking with the US/American business, too - personally I'd have preferred United States, but American makes more sense in terms of the category tree. Grutness...wha? 22:53, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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People/sportspeople speedy categories

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Form existing upmerged templates, following are viable:

SeveroTC 21:23, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Mauritian it is - if in doubt, check List of adjectival and demonymic forms of place names. Grutness...wha? 22:10, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Support both. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:19, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Guatemalan sportspeople stubs

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Speediable from 68 articles from upmerged templates {{Guatemala-athletics-bio-stub}}, {{Guatemala-boxing-bio-stub}}, {{Guatemala-cycling-bio-stub}}, {{Guatemala-footy-bio-stub}}, {{Guatemala-swimming-bio-stub}}, {{Guatemala-tennis-bio-stub}}, {{Guatemala-volleyball-bio-stub}} and {{Guatemala-sport-bio-stub}}. SeveroTC 21:05, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Support - speedy away. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:17, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
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{{NativeAmerican-politician-stub}}

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A combination of two catscans, here and (if that isn't everything) also here. If they were involved in state or federal government, I would sort by state. If they were involved in tribal government, I would sort as NativeAmerican. ~Gosox(55)(55) 17:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Support - I think there's merit in this. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:54, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Actinopterygii stubs sub-categories

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Found the following as likely categories. Note: I used the size search in catscan, so these counts may be off, and may not reduce the parent category as much as indicated:

Also, the following should support creation of the template:

Dawynn (talk) 16:06, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
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Ground squirrels

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I propose Category:Ground squirrel stubs/{{ground-squirrel-stub}} - scan glists 69 stubs for this category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Support - proves you're not going nuts. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:40, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
(I should note that you may feel free to hit me whenever you wish for coming up with such horrible, horrible jokes...) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:40, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
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Split of film bios

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just to proove I haven't gone over to just music

should be over 100 in each category. Waacstats (talk) 01:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:20, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
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Split of Jazz musician stubs

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The following all appear viable

Some of the non-US categories may end up in the 50-60 range but with a sub cat this should be OK. Waacstats (talk) 01:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:20, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Support Well spotted.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:30, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
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Caribbean musicians

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The following are both viable

Don't think that individual nation templates are required at this point because I think the largest single country is Cuba with about 20 across the two categories. Waacstats (talk) 01:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:19, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Support - Jamaica gets to about 25, BTW. Grutness...wha? 00:30, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
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Split of guitarist

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The following should now be viable

there may be more to follow. Waacstats (talk) 01:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:19, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
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Trombonists

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This one could proove a little awkward as the following would all be viable but may be not together.

the numbers are my best guess as to the potential size of each category assuming that any subcats are not created (i.e amongst the 105 trombonists are 60 US-jazz and 45 others). I think the first and last will be enough for now, what does everyone else think. Waacstats (talk) 01:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Support templates, categories where appropriate - we can but find out. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:20, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
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split of musician stubs part 2a

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the following all appear to be viable

all based on catscan

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:50, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
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split of Classical musician stubs

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not oversized but massive undersorting to here so to start a tidy up a propose the following tempaltes, categories iff we get 60

Should have a few categories out of that lot. Waacstats (talk) 13:21, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Support - oh, yes. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:50, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
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Split of european musician stubs

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I thought we already had templates for each european country but it appears that a few are missing, some of the most obvious are Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Croatia and Slovakia. I propose we create templates for all missing countries that have stub articles. Waacstats (talk) 13:21, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:50, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
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Defensive back, 1990s birth stubs

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The result of the debate was create upmerged template.
There already is a category and a stub for each decade before (see Category:Defensive back stubs), so a 1990s version is due. —bender235 (talk) 15:19, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I have no problem with a template (And likewise for other positions) but we normally only create categories which will (at the time of creation) contain at least 60 articles and as these guys would at most be 21 years old I think it may be awhile before we get to 60 articles. Waacstats (talk) 15:50, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Support template for now. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
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Stub for electrical engineers

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Catscan only turns up 14 stubs in the Electrical engineers category, but stub templates for civil and mechanical engineers already exist so it seems reasonable. Doctorhook (talk) 23:36, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Support template for now. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:16, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Do you mean A stub for Electrical engineering or Electrical engineers as I can only find stubs for civil and mechanical engineering not engineers. Waacstats (talk) 14:33, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
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Split of Category:Archaeology stubs

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The following subtypes should almost certainly be viable for their own subcategories, and if not would be very useful as upmerged templates:

Grutness...wha? 04:38, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Support all --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:15, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
    • Update - the UK actually had >200 stubs, not 75 - and amazingly there are enough if needed for a separate Devon-specific stub, though I seriously doubt that it's worthwhile at the moment! Grutness...wha? 06:31, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
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{{Psychiatrist-stub}}

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We have {{Psychologist-stub}}, but no equivalent stub for its partner field of psychiatry. I feel that such a stub is long overdue and - if there are enough of them for a category, could reduce some of the strain on both Category:Medical biography stubs and {{cl|Psychology stubs}{} (where they don't really belong anyway). Grutness...wha? 09:03, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Support - I'm sure it myst be viable. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:39, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I'll guarantee it's viability as I have often thought about proposing it and not got round to it and I think an American category would be viable as well. Waacstats (talk) 20:05, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Certainly adding {{US-psychiatrist-stub}} to the nom would be a good idea. Grutness...wha? 04:42, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
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Construction stub

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There doesn't seem to be a construction stub.Smallman12q (talk) 05:17, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

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various split of Category:Musician stubs

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Busy trying to plan how to keep myself busy over christmas. the following are all viable:

Waacstats (talk) 22:42, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:49, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Support all (now that i've made a tiny typo correction to one or two of the names! BTW, IIRC the British spelling for the last one is clarinettist (I could be wrong on that...) - if so a redirect from clarinettist-stub might be useful. Grutness...wha? 04:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I have never seen Clarinettist before, but a quick check of my dictionary reveals that it is indeed the correct British English spelling (A Brit being told the correct Brit English spelling of words by a resident of New Zealand). Waacstats (talk) 20:17, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Heh - we use UK spelling here too. I think clarinettist is slowly becoming an archaism, but it's still around. Grutness...wha? 21:28, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:British Anglican church stubs

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The result of the debate was create as United Kingdom Anglican church stubs.
{{UK-anglican-church-stub}} would have over 100 articles. Any one any problems with this (Apotted todays pattern?)Waacstats (talk) 23:11, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Would it be worth having upmerged templates for England, Scotland, NI and Wales? Grutness...wha? 00:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Support - none that I can see. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:07, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Given that we only have about 150 I don't think splitting the templates by Home country would be worth it at the moment. Waacstats (talk) 13:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:United States synagogue stubs

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catscan suggests this should have well over 100 articles {{US-synagogue-stub}}. Waacstats (talk) 22:01, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:10, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Indian Hindu temple stubs

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Catscan suggests the vast majority of hindu temples that are stub articles are Indian so this should help with reducing double stubbing. Waacstats (talk) 21:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:10, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Uruguayan building and structure stubs

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{{Uruguay-struct-stub}} has over 60 artices, any opposition to a new category. Waacstats (talk) 20:56, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Support - none here. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:10, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Perciformes stubs split

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I'd like to pull a few categories out of this oversized category. I'd like to make the following categories. Article counts are pulled from cat scan and based on size, not necessarily just on previously tagged stubs.

Because I was basing strictly on article size, further investigation may bring these numbers down. Templates will be built first. Any of the listed categories that pass the 60 mark will be made into full categories. Dawynn (talk) 13:54, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Support all --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:06, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Looks like another one leaving Category:Overpopulated stub categories. Waacstats (talk) 20:58, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Note: Correction to last category above. Should have been Category:Percidae stubs. Dawynn (talk) 11:40, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:British illustrator stubs

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Above cat and {{UK-illustrator-stub}} have over 75 articles accoring to catscan. Waacstats (talk) 22:59, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:06, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Pittsylvania County geography stubs

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Fed by {{PittsylvaniaVA-geo-stub}} - somewhere north of 100 stubs, if my action today is any indication. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:28, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy support. Waacstats (talk) 22:59, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Created at Category:Pittsylvania County, Virginia geography stubs to fit in with pattern of other virginia counties. Waacstats (talk) 02:58, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
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Further split of Category:Film biography stubs

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The following are all apparently viable

Any one see any problems. Waacstats (talk) 00:04, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Support all - can't see any here. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Argentine film director stubs

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{{Argentina-film-director-stub}} has reached 60 any objections to speeding the category. Waacstats (talk) 23:45, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:34, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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split of Category:Anthropologist stubs

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the following are all viable according to catscan

should help in tidying up the scientist cats. Waacstats (talk) 22:00, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Support all --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:34, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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Split of Category:Business biography stubs

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Another one that could do with a southam cat

with upmerged by country templates of the form {{Foo-business-bio-stub}}, should easily past 60 and help tidy up another messy category. Waacstats (talk) 00:20, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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split of Category:United States film biography stubs

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Another category needing a good tidy up but the following should help

catscan suggest over 100 articles each but very few are double stubbed. Waacstats (talk) 22:22, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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More South American airport stubs

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Just noticed that we don't have any by-country stub templates for these. It's not a huge tragedy, but I think we ought to maybe get it sorted out. So I propose the following: {{Peru-airport-stub}}, {{Brazil-airport-stub}}, {{Bolivia-airport-stub}}, {{Chile-airport-stub}}, {{Colombia-airport-stub}}, {{Ecuador-airport-stub}}, {{Venezuela-airport-stub}}, {{Argentina-airport-stub}}, {{Paraguay-airport-stub}}, {{Uruguay-airport-stub}}, and {{FrenchGuiana-airport-stub}}. ({{Guyana-airport-stub}} I've just proposed, and {{Suriname-airport-stub}} was approved a while ago.) What say you? The category isn't oversized yet, but I see potential for that in the not-too-distant future. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:20, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Not yet. With a little work and some pushing, Brazil could get there, but CatScan suggests that it lacks 20 as yet. Others are even further down the list. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:52, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
I was implying a Category:South American airport stubs which, given Brazil around 40, I take it is viable. So viable infact it already exists so ignore me. Waacstats (talk) 22:52, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
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{{Guyana-airport-stub}}

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To match other South American countries. I have some use for it, coming up; there won't be enough for a category, but the stub tag will be useful. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

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split of Category:Academic biography stubs

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according to catscan the following are both viable and would help in tidying up the above cat

Should seriously help tidying up. Waacstats (talk) 23:11, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

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Category:Brunswick County, Virginia geography stubs

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Busy night last night - I think we can move {{BrunswickVA-geo-stub}} out of the general state category. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Should get the Category:Virginia geography stubs off the oversize list for abit. Waacstats (talk) 22:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:New York Registered Historic Place stubs split

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I'd like to propose a new split of the New York Registered Historic Place stubs. Currently, all the articles have been split by county. But enough of the counties are still small enough that they upmerge into an oversized state category. I'd like to propose splitting the state according to the regions defined in this map: file:New York State Department Economic Development Regions.png. If I analyzed this correctly, the split would look like this:

  1. Category:Chautauqua-Alleghany, New York Registered Historic Place stubs
  2. Category:Greater Niagara, New York Registered Historic Place stubs
  3. Category:Finger Lakes, New York Registered Historic Place stubs
  4. Category:Thousand Islands-Seaway, New York Registered Historic Place stubs
  5. Category:Central-Leatherstocking, New York Registered Historic Place stubs
  6. Category:Adirondack Mountains, New York Registered Historic Place stubs
  7. Category:Catskill Mountains, New York Registered Historic Place stubs
  8. Category:Hudson Valley, New York Registered Historic Place stubs
  9. Category:Capital-Saratoga, New York Registered Historic Place stubs
  10. Category:New York City Region, New York Registered Historic Place stubs
  11. Category:Long Island, New York Registered Historic Place stubs

The new categories will all be holders only. No new templates requested. Dawynn (talk) 16:03, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Support all - not a bad idea, I think. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:41, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Support I've been keeping an eye on this one and am always suprised that the other counties of New York city haven't passed the 60 mark. Waacstats (talk) 22:41, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
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{{Pakistan-sport-stub}}

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Was surprised by our lack of a separate {{Pakistan-sport-stub}}, which - given similar templates for other countries - is probably speediable as an upmerged type. Grutness...wha? 22:07, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:21, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:United States law stubs

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above category is oversized suggest a {{US-case-law-stub}} and Category:United States case law stubs should be over 60 according to catscan. Waacstats (talk) 12:25, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:21, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
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More Category:Burkina Faso geography stubs categories

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As these follow precedent for other Burkina Faso provinces, they should be able to go speedy. Dawynn (talk) 17:52, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy support. Waacstats (talk) 21:35, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Pakistani field hockey biography stubs

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{{Pakistan-fieldhockey-bio-stub}} has 60+ articles, any objections to the category. Waacstats (talk) 13:40, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Support - none here. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:12, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Burkina Faso geography stubs split

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Propose adding a few new categories here:

Category:Cascades Region geography stubs. As with the precedent set by other region stubs for Burkina Faso, this will be built as a holder category with no template. It will become home to:

Category:Est Region, Burkina Faso, geography stubs. Again, holder category with no template. It will become home to:

Category:Burkina Faso geography stubs is nearing the 800 article oversize mark. This will knock out over half of that count. Dawynn (talk) 17:23, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy support. Waacstats (talk) 20:46, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Speedy support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:13, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:New York Registered Historic Place stubs

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Oversized the following are viable based on existing upmerged templates

any problems (Incorrect spelling). Waacstats (talk) 00:01, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:38, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:British dramatist and playwright stubs

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Category:United Kingdom writer stubs is close to oversized and this should sort that out with {{UK-playwright-stub}} as the template. Waacstats (talk) 16:57, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Support, less the typo which I took the liberty of fixing :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:07, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
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Split of Category:Serbia geography stubs

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Oversized category and the following are viable from already existing upmerged templates

should deal with the size problem and then just needs some sorting I think. Waacstats (talk) 15:37, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:10, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Danish political party stubs

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Currently Category:European political party stubs is oversized and {{Denmark-party-stub}} has 60 articles. Speedy?? Waacstats (talk) 01:42, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Support speedy - I'm always down for a good party. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:54, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:United States Army personnel stubs

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Slightly oversized (at over 1000) suggest a split by war with the Civil war, WWI and WWII all viable. suggest the following:

Suggestions for improvements to names greatly accepted as these need improving. Waacstats (talk) 01:25, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I fixed a couple of caps in the category titles for you - may I suggest {{US-army-CivilWar-bio-stub}} instead? That sounds a bit better to me, "Civil War" being as much a title as a description of what it was.
Incidentally, what's the status of Confederate biographies, any idea? That may be viable grounds for another stub tag, though I'm not sure. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:56, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the corrections they all look good. As for the confederate biographies I have always put them in this category and according to catscan ther would not be enough for a Category:Union Army personnel stubs and Category:Confederate Army personnel stubs maybe using two templates {{Union-army-bio-stub}} and {{Confederate-army-bio-stub}} to populate a civil war category. Waacstats (talk) 15:26, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
That works - but perhaps {{Union-mil-bio-stub}} and {{Confederate-mil-bio-stub}} instead? While most of the articles would be about soldiers, there was a significant enough naval presence in the war, too, which would probably take in at least a few articles about naval personnel. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
That would depend on if we are then taking out those people from the civil war first then splitting the rest by specific force. Waacstats (talk) 22:36, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
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{{Belgium-monastery-stub}}

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Loads to transwiki too.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:51, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:35, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Change to {{Belgium-Christian-monastery-stub}} to match existing templates and you have my support as well! Waacstats (talk) 21:36, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Oregon organization stubs

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The high-level Oregon stub category, Category:Oregon stubs, has about 220 entries. Up to half are businesses and many of the others are organizations like festivals, farmers markets, clubs, etc. At the moment, I was looking for a stub tag for a volunteer mountain search and rescue: there doesn't seem to be a better category than the general Oregon stub.

I am completely oblivious to the inner operations of the stub group, but 200 seems like it adequately exceeds the suggested threshold of 30 to 60 category members where it would be reasonable to subdivide this classes of articles. In view of that, perhaps it would also be satisfactory to further subdivide this into commercial and for-profit groups versus volunteer and non-profit groups. —EncMstr (talk) 21:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I therefore suggest {{Oregon-corporate-stub}} and {{Oregon-organization-stub}} with corresponding category names. But I didn't check for parallels anywhere. —EncMstr (talk) 22:21, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak support. 60 is the number of stubs that would be in the new subcategory, not the number currently in the category to be split; usually splitting out of an existing category only becomes a major issue when it has 600-800 stubs. The "sweet spot" at for a stub category is usually regarded as 150-400 stubs, so the current size of Category:Oregon stubs is pretty near spot on. Having said that, if there are as many org-stubs there as you say, it's a reasonable option. Grutness...wha? 04:23, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
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