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Geology Hall edit

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Geology Hall edit

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The result was: not scheduled by Bencherlite ^Talk 19:50, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Geology Hall is a building located in the historic Queens Campus section of Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey's College Avenue Campus in New Brunswick, New Jersey. It was included on the New Jersey Register of Historic Places and the National Register of Historic Places in 1973 as part of the Queens Campus. When Rutgers was selected as New Jersey's only land grant college in 1864, it expanded its curriculum to include science and agriculture education. Rutgers president William Henry Campbell raised funds to construct a building to accommodate these programs. Designed by architect Henry Janeway Hardenbergh, Geology Hall was built in 1872. At present, the building houses administrative offices and the university's geological museum. The museum, which is among the oldest collegiate geology collections in the United States, was founded by state geologist and Rutgers professor George Hammell Cook. Its exhibits showcase the natural history of New Jersey, geology, paleontology, and anthropology and include fluorescent zinc minerals from Franklin and Ogdensburg, a mastodon (pictured) from Salem County, a dinosaur trackway discovered in Towaco, and a Ptolemaic era Egyptian mummy. (Full article...)

Most recent similar articles: unknown
Main editors: ColonelHenry, Tomwsulcer
Promoted: 2014-04-13
Reasons for nomination: new FA, it would be Tomwsulcer's first TFA appearance and first FA. BLURB: As proposed (above), 185 words, 1,227 characters with spaces.
Support as nominator. ColonelHenry (talk) 01:03, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support because SCIENCE !!! — Cirt (talk) 18:03, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Now 1,200 exactly. Bencherlite ^Talk 22:34, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Using the full legal name (Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey) when the article on the university itself is at Rutgers University and states that Rutgers University is an acceptable common name feels pointy, and possibly promotional. I've tried to boldly change this, but was reverted by the nominator. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:27, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The university hasn't been officially "Rutgers University" since 1945, so putting it in the blurb for this purpose would be promoting an inaccuracy--something I am loathe to do. The "common name" policy, WP:UCN, works for article titles, especially for length official names vs. shorter unofficial names, but it shouldn't trump accuracy in terms of content and the representation of content. As an acceptable common name, I compare this to running a blurb on the "Nobel Prize in Economics" when there is "officially" no such thing.--ColonelHenry (talk) 04:13, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I fail to see how the comparison can be made, when the simple "Rutgers University" is not easily confused with something of a similar name (unlike the Nobel Memorial Prize). Simply typing "Rutgers" into our search bar goes straight to the university article, and nothing at Rutgers (disambiguation) could reasonably be called Rutgers University. Bill Clinton is legally William Clinton, and Madonna has a legal name that few would recognize. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:02, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Seems like not-generally interesting university boosterism of a building mostly used as administrative offices. I'd rather see an article about mastodons than to make a fuss about a building that contains one. More actual science articles please, less valorization of administrative offices.__ E L A Q U E A T E 10:20, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The nominator User:ColonelHenry and his sockpuppets have just been indefinitely blocked for perpetuating a hoax article about Rutgers University. I think that puts this nomination under an embarrassing cloud for the moment. It looks like this article was almost completely written by the banned user and will need more community investigation. __ E L A Q U E A T E 16:30, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Agreed. Now is not the time to run a ColonelHenry article as TFA. Closing. Bencherlite ^Talk 19:50, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was: not scheduled by — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:16, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Geology Hall is a building located in the historic Queens Campus section of the Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, United States. It was included on the New Jersey Register of Historic Places and the National Register of Historic Places in 1973. When Rutgers was selected as the state's only land grant college in 1864, the college began to expand its curriculum, including science and agriculture. College president William Henry Campbell raised funds to construct a building to accommodate this expansion, and Geology Hall, designed by architect Henry Janeway Hardenbergh, was built in 1872. The building houses now administrative offices and the university's geological museum. It shows one of the oldest collegiate geology collections in the United States, founded by state geologist and Rutgers professor George Hammell Cook in 1872. It showcases the natural history of New Jersey, focused on geology, paleontology, and anthropology. Exhibits include fluorescent zinc minerals from Franklin and Ogdensburg, a mastodon from Salem County, a dinosaur trackway discovered in Towaco, and a Ptolemaic era Egyptian mummy. (Full article...)

Most recent similar article(s): no recent geology museum, - yes other buildings such as Capon Chapel, to be 2 Oct
Main editors: ColonelHenry, Tomwsulcer
Promoted: April 2014
Reasons for nomination: why not? (not scheduled last time, which I had completely forgotten when I wrote this blurb)
Support as nominator. Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:01, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
~~Support~~ as per Gerda Arendt.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:05, 23 September 2015 (UTC) Changing to Undecided based on comments below. Note I only contributed photos to this article, I personally have not tried to verify any of its facts although after I did a superficial reading, nothing struck me as obviously wrong. I mean, the article seems reasonable, this doesn't seem to be one of those subjects that attracts the POV-pushers.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 12:02, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose until every single aspect of this article has been verified as free of the kind of lies and invention that caused its primary author to be banned from Wikipedia. — Scott • talk 11:34, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You would be a reliable person to do that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:01, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have much, much better things to do with my time. — Scott • talk 19:43, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? Because of the FAC nominator's history that meant that I didn't schedule it last year. Oppose per Scott until this article has been given a clean bill of health on a thorough investigation by unconnected editors. Bencherlite ^Talk 14:26, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Regardless of the doubts expressed above concerning this article, the Art and Architecture category of featured articles has been considerably over-represented at TFA this year. It's quite a small category, proportionately worth about 7 or 8 in a full year. In 2015 we have already scheduled 12 (6 paintings and 6 buildings} and this would be the 13th, with three months still to run. There is no case at all for scheduling this beyond the rather pallid "why not?", which I think has been fairly answered. Brianboulton (talk) 22:31, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]