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Template:Israeli spies edit

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 01:08, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mishmash of individuals who spied for Israel as agents, were employees of Israeli intelligence as case officers who recruited spies, Israeli undercover officers, and individual accused, but not confirmed, of working for Israeli intelligence. This is a randomly-selected subset of individuals related to "Israeli spies," who are more comprehensively labeled with the Israeli spies, a more appropriate grouping here. Longhornsg (talk) 18:21, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:29, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Perfectly useful navigational box, modelled on Template:Soviet Spies, with the same clear inclusion criteria as Category:Israeli spies: "The category Israeli spy includes Israeli and non-Israeli spies for Israel. Israelis who spied for other countries are included under the nationality they served for." The existence of subsets does not make the selection random. Uriahheep228 (talk) 14:07, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Don't WP:WHATABOUTX. What's the inclusion criteria? Why is Meir Max Bineth, a minor figure who served 2 years in Israeli military intelligence included, but Rafi Eitan, arguably one of the most notable figures in Israeli intelligence is not? The category is far more expansive and properly differentiates between people who spied for Israel and those who worked for agencies like the Mossad. Longhornsg (talk) 14:39, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I linked to the Soviet template to clarify the inclusion criteria, which is being a spy for Israel, and structure of the template. Working in intelligence is not the same thing as being a spy and there is a separate Template:Israeli Intelligence Community, which from what I can see has no current overlap with this one. Eitan was in charge of an intelligence agency that carried out spying operations, but his article doesn't say anything about him being a spy himself. Bineth's article talks about how he spied on Egypt. Eitan would be an obvious inclusion if Lekem had its own navbox, like how Template:NKVD links to the NKVD's leaders but is distinct from the Soviet spies navbox. Uriahheep228 (talk) 16:09, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 18:54, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:35, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete (although this opens up a can of worms). There's a never-ending tide of good-faith created navboxes that basically soft-duplicate categories, but this isn't always a good idea. In particular, this is a poor fit for a navbox, any more than any other Israeli (occupation) category would make for a navbox - Israeli chefs, Israeli basketball players, whatever. Per WP:NAVBOX, the first guideline is "All articles within a template relate to a single, coherent subject," a guideline very often ignored. It doesn't say "All articles share a single element." And yes, this rationale means that any navbox templates like Russian spies, X-ian spies, etc. should also be deleted. SnowFire (talk) 15:38, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:New York–Penn League edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2023 October 18. ✗plicit 23:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Years in the Republic of China edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:47, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicates two of the rows of Template:Years in China Thebiguglyalien (talk) 18:14, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Years in the People's Republic of China edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:47, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicates one of the rows of Template:Years in China Thebiguglyalien (talk) 18:13, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Modern English personal pronouns (table) edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:19, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Single-article table with no template parameters. Copy into article and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:41, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Metric units of mass edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:18, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Navbox with only two (I think) blue links to individual articles (gram and kilogram). All other links lead to the same article, Orders of magnitude (mass). Not useful for navigation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:13, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Casey Demons 2022 VFL premiers edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:17, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant to {{2022 Casey Demons premiership players}}. Created at the same time by the same editor. It looks like the editor recreated the template instead of moving it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:08, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Fayette County/Lexington neighborhoods edit

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Lexington (Kentucky). Izno (talk) 17:17, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Fayette County/Lexington neighborhoods with Template:Lexington (Kentucky).
These two templates should be merged because the city of Lexington and Fayette County is a consolidated city-county. Nearly all topics that have the neighborhoods box already has the Lexington box and vice versa. Additionally, by only listing neighborhoods the Fayette navbox does not provide complete information about Lexington-Fayette. The neighborhoods should be listed in a sub navbox of the City of Lexington navbox for simplicity. Ha2772a (talk) 15:33, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:List of big Fintech companies edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:36, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Untranscluded template violating key principles of template organization. A navigation box has to represent a defined set linked by clear and objective inclusion criteria -- all of the people who have won a specific noteworthy award, all of the radio stations in a specific media market, all of the members of a specific legislative body, and on and so forth -- but this just represents a subjectively-chosen random selection of ten companies in a diverse industry with a lot more than ten companies, with absolutely no clear criteria set out for how to determine what companies qualify for inclusion here and what companies don't, which is exactly what navigation boxes aren't allowed to be. Bearcat (talk) 04:25, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Taxonomy/Nanopusillus edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2023 October 18. ✗plicit 14:36, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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