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October 21

Holly Earl's double

Watching The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe I feel sure I've seen Holly Earl before, but no — unless we count a very small part at age 7. So, she must strongly resemble someone else (besides her sister Elizabeth, whom I haven't seen in anything either). Got any ideas who? —Tamfang (talk) 04:22, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

She's got a little bit of a Michelle Trachtenberg thing going on. Maybe her? --Jayron32 04:57, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Hm, no, I'm a Buffy fan so I'd notice ... —Tamfang (talk) 05:02, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Maybe you're thinking of Miley Cyrus or Sasha Pieterse Google search link for Sasha. Dismas|^(talk) 05:22, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Haven't seen either of them. Oh well, knew it was a long shot! —Tamfang (talk) 05:02, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

MODOK

I just finished reading a thick omnibus of Marvel comics. There is this particular story on MODOK. When asked what it means, he says it means Mobile Organism Designed Only for Killing. But the Wikipedia MODOK page says Mental Organism Designed Only for Killing. I changed it, but it keeps getting reverted. So, Mobile or Mental? Bonkers The Clown (talk) 05:58, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

This says "mental": http://www.comicvine.com/modok/29-3709/. However, I get 29,700 Google hits for "Mobile Organism Designed Only for Killing" versus 53,000 Ghits for "Mental Organism Designed Only for Killing". This suggests that both are used. This wouldn't be the first acronym to have a dual meaning. (ZIP code can mean Zone Improvement Plan or Program.) StuRat (talk) 16:21, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Might not even be the first time Marvel Comics changed its mind about the meaning of an acronym! —Tamfang (talk) 05:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Yea i know. Just like SHIELDs meaning. So... Both should be included in the main? Bonkers The Clown (talk) 05:28, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

The comics style guide suggests including both if they are indeed alternate names. It's good that you've already started a discussion about this on the article's talk page. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 05:40, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Haiku in "The Last Samurai"

In the course of the narrative of the film The Last Samurai the samurai lord Katsumoto (played by Ken Watanabe) struggles to compose a haiku about flowers. He completes it literally with his dying breath, uttering the phrase "they are all perfect". I want to know the entire poem but I don't have access to a copy of the film, or the time to watch a whole movie just to catch a few words. Roger (talk) 13:05, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

From http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Last_Samurai I can combine two quotes:

The perfect blossom is a rare thing. 
You could spend your life looking for one, 
and it would not be a wasted life.
Perfect.  They... are all... perfect.

Is that a proper Haiku ? StuRat (talk) 16:27, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Not a haiku at all, it's far too long - I obviously misremembered. I wonder if it would have the right prosody in Japanese to even be a proper poem. Roger (talk) 20:11, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Invaders from Saturn

This is a longshot, but does anyone know what film I'm vaguely recalling from when I was a little kid? I saw it on TV sometime around 1960, so it could have been from any time in the 1950s. A spaceship arrives from Saturn -- I think it was saucer-shaped, and it was very large. The army is waiting for it with rifles ready. A long staircase comes down from the ship, and an alien shaped like a person, dressed in what looks like medieval armor, starts to walk down the stairs. A nervous army rifleman shoots the alien, and he comes tumbling down the stairs. That's all I can remember. Duoduoduo (talk) 15:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

The Day the Earth Stood Still, although the origin isn't listed as being Saturn, to my knowledge. Also, you've conflated the alien robot (Gort) which serves as a bodyguard and looks like he is wearing armor, with the human-looking alien (Klaatu) who is shot. (At first, Klaatu wears a helmet that makes him look like a smaller version of Gort.) This is a classic sci-fi film in that it portrays the aliens as benevolent and us as evil, or at least prone to panic, the reverse of the typical portrayal. StuRat (talk) 16:07, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

That's the one. And please watch the original 1951 movie, monochrome and all. The 2008 remake ... the less said, the better. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 18:39, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

And, if you like your aliens evil, then my fave is To Serve Man (The Twilight Zone). It even made it into a Simpsons parody. StuRat (talk) 21:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Nope, that's not the one. I'm familiar with that one, and like it. Duoduoduo (talk) 20:58, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Maybe Earth vs. the Flying Saucers? Saucers and Earthlings shooting at clunky armored beings, but still no Saturn, stairs or tumbling down thereof. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:51, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Worf in Star Trek: The Next Generation

What is the significance of the diagonal silver coloured sash that Worf wears? Kittybrewster ☎ 15:46, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

It's a Klingon warrior's sash. See http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Baldric. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 16:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. It's significance is that it shows he retains his traditional Klingon identity and values. The conflict between those and his Federation identify and values is featured in several episodes of TNG, such as Reunion. StuRat (talk) 16:04, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Memory Alpha has the answer: "Worf was permitted a variation from the Starfleet uniform dress code, and wore a Klingon warrior's sash, sometimes called a baldric by Humans, over his regular duty uniform." We also have a Baldric article that mentions it. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 16:09, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Are any other Klingon characters shown walking around with such sashes? 109.99.71.97 (talk) 22:02, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

The Memory Alpha article listed above contains a list of Klingons who have been seen wearing baldrics. 69.62.243.48 (talk) 22:20, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

It is a good day to make a fashion statement. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:20, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

I am not sure if that's laugh-out-loud funny, or just plain racist. μηδείς (talk) 02:50, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

It's funny. Klingons have a motto about it being "a good day to die", so this plays on it. I don't see any racism in it (especially as there is not actually any such race as Klingons). ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:04, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

I got the joke, Bugs. Apparently you didn't get mine. Next we'll be hearing from the Klingon Anti-Defamation League. μηδείς (talk) 17:51, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, we're good. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:50, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

I got Clarityfiend's joke, but not your reply. Care to explain it, Medeis ? StuRat (talk) 22:51, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

It was indeed a funny comment, but my feigned concern that I might should feel guilty for enjoying the possible racist content showed a humorous (I thought) juxtaposition between real-world preoccupations and utter unreality. μηδείς (talk) 18:57, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Sometimes, something we find funny is funny only to ourselves. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:33, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

If you are implying that you took my concern for possible anti-Klingitism so seriously you couldn't see the joke, then yes, that is very, very funny--or hugely flattering to me. μηδείς (talk) 03:09, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't sure if you meant it or not. Ya never know. There was someone here recently who accused English-speakers who make fun of other English-speakers' ways of saying things as "racists". It can be hard to know when such an accusation is serious or not. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:09, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

There's only one way to settle this: bat'leths at dawn. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:15, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

How about a food fight ? I'll throw the first plate of gagh. StuRat (talk) 04:10, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank God we have a rule that helps us manage when we're uncertain: Assume Good Faith. It even applies in many cases when we're certain. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 02:55, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Huuh? Clarityfiend (talk) 04:49, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Where to view the matches of the 2010 FIFA World Cup?

Is there any website or torrent perhaps that contains the matches from the 2010 FIFA World Cup. For example, if one wanted to relive these moments, which I'm sure many people do. Nicholasprado (talk) 21:47, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

I think you would have to buy the DVD [1]. --Viennese Waltz 12:12, 22 October 2012 (UTC)