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January 8

searching for a book that has the same storyline as the movie "The Quick and the Dead"

I recently saw the movie "The Quick and The Dead" starring Sharon Stone. The story was almost exactly the same as a Western novel I read about 10 years ago. The main differences being that in the novel, the young woman looking to avenge her father disguised herself as a young man, and she has some further adventures on her way to the gun tournament that are not included in the movie, and I can't remember if the preacher's character was there, but otherwise they are incredibly similar. I checked your page on "The quick and the Dead" movie, hoping to find out the name of that novel (which was definately not the same as the movie), because I can't remember it, and I was disappointed to not even find any reference that this movie was based on a book, which it was. How can I find out the name of that novel? It had a sequal that I want to find and read. Way back when I read it the first time I did not own a computer and it never occurred to me that one day I might be able to use one to find books, so I didn't keep the book.85.250.127.129 (talk) 08:34, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Hmm - might be True Grit old chap. Quintessential British Gentleman (talk) 22:11, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I spent a long time searching different lists of Westerns,and I found the book I was looking for. It is "Death rides a Chestnut Mare" by Ralph Compton. 85.250.127.129 (talk) 08:44, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Sidecar Social Club

SIdecar Social Club is a jazz band based in Raleigh, NC. Fronted by singer Lisa Veronica Wood, and under the musical direction of keyboardist Jim Crew, the band performs classic jazz tunes from the 20's and 30's, as well as putting a timeless spin on modern pop covers. Additional band members include Aaron Bittikofer (bass), FO Finch (saxophones), and Ed Butler (drums). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimcrewjr (talk • contribs) 15:37, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

So what's your question? Paul MacDermott (talk) 19:30, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Two NFL related questions

While watching the NFL wildcard games this weekend, my wife had two questions that I could not answer:

1. 1 Why do the New York Jets/Giants play in New Jersey? Unless I missed it in the team articles (both are rather long), it is only described as a "unique arrangment." But why?
2. 2 Back in the regular season we recalled Saints TE Jimmy Graham scoring a touchdown, and then performing his signature celebration of "slam dunking" the football over the crossbar of the upright, causing it to go askew and require adjustment. Did Graham receive a penalty for this (excessive celebration or delay of game)? Or was this just a case of faulty equipment, since I recall seeing many other players celebrate in this fashion with no effect of the upright? Quinn ^➳WINDY 18:31, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Don't know about the second one. As to the first, both teams originally played in New York City. The Giants moved to their new Meadowlands stadium in the 1970s, and the Jets followed a few years later. Now they have a new new Meadowlands stadium, and aren't likely to go anywhere else soon. Teams often play in suburbs of the city they're named for, and it happens that the suburb the Giants and Jets play in, is in New Jersey. Calling themselves "New York" has been griped about from time to time, but being a private business, no one can force them to change their name. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:37, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

More regarding #1: Many sports teams take the names of the metropolitan area or other geographic feature rather than the city or state specifically. For example, there is no municipality known as Tampa Bay. It is a body of water. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Tampa Bay Lightning play in Tampa, Florida while the Tampa Bay Rays play in St. Petersburg, Florida. As noted, the Giants used to play in New York City proper (both in Yankee Stadium and the Polo Grounds, but they also played two seasons in Connecticut (the Yale Bowl). The Jets have played in both the Polo Grounds and in Shea Stadium in New York before moving to New Jersey. The Detroit Lions played for many years in the Pontiac Silverdome, which wasn't in Detroit. When they were named the Los Angeles Rams, they played in Anaheim Stadium in Anaheim, California. There are far too many more examples to list all of them. Suffice it to say that there is no law demanding that the name of the sports team reflect the exact political unit in which the home stadium is located. --Jayron32 02:30, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

On question #1, basically, because there wasn't an available football stadium in New York City, so they have to play somewhere nearby instead. Why wasn't there an available football stadium in NYC? Because space is so tight in ultra-densely-populated NYC, and land is so expensive in ultra-desired NYC real estate, it was probably much cheaper to build in New Jersey. Why don't the teams change their names to "New Jersey"? For reasons of historical continuity (because the teams are historically NYC teams), and for revenue reasons (NYC is not only a bigger television market, and also has more cultural prominence and is able to establish more of an emotional connection nation-wide). —SeekingAnswers (reply) 04:16, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) There's certainly nothing stopping them from calling themselves the "New Jersey Giants" if they so chose. The New Jersey Devils play next door. However, you'll get a lot more support and sell a lot more merchandise by claiming to be a team of the entire New York area rather than New Jersey. This is why the Anaheim Angels renamed themselves the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim," even though they play quite a ways from the city of LA. As for why they built the stadium there, it's close to NYC, convenient to major roads and has at least some parking. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 04:21, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I think that the more important question is "Why bother changing the name to New Jersey?" Yes, there are nearby sports teams which use "New Jersey" in their names (The New Jersey Nets and the New Jersey Devils), but in both of those cases, those teams were named so as to not compete with existing franchises already claiming New York (the New York Knicks, New York Rangers, and New York Islanders); the New Jersey Nets used to be the New York Nets but chose to change their name when they moved to New Jersey. That was the owners prerogative; they could have easily kept the New York name, but they chose not to, perhaps believing that in basketball, it made more sense to change their name. The Giants and Jets chose to keep the New York name, again because they believed it served their interests better. There's no law against it. --Jayron32 04:29, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

New Yawk is dah center of dah freakin' univoise; Joisey, not so much. Clarityfiend (talk)

And next year of course the New Jersey Nets will be back in New York, but will be the "Brooklyn Nets". Adam Bishop (talk) 13:48, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Another "across state lines" situation I'm reminded of is the minor league baseball team called the Charlotte Knights, which don't play in Charlotte, North Carolina; but rather in Fort Mill, South Carolina, a Charlotte suburb. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:04, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Regarding question 2: I assume you are referring to this touchdown. No, Graham was never penalized, as celebrating in this fashion is still legal. And no it was not faulty equipment. As the caption on that video that I just linked says modestly, "he may have dunked the goal post a little too hard." Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:43, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

hijab video

I remember there was a video where it was a like news report and they were talking about the way you wear the hijab with eyes, breasts, butt, vagina and nose and mouth exposed for the doctors to check the body. It was a like parody and it was in French. Does anybody know the video and where I can view it?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.41.89 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 8 January 2012‎

Sounds like it might have been something from Vous les femmes.Blakk and ekka 13:56, 10 January 2012 (UTC)