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Capatin EO: Supreme Leader stand-in/double?

I recently watched the Captain EO movie at Epcot. Prior to the Supreme Leader's "transformation" in the ending scenes, the Supreme Leader is in heavy whiteface makeup concealing the actress' true identity; however, the actress has perfectly straight teeth. Anjelica Huston does not have perfectly straight teeth, leading me to believe that there was a stand-in for Huston in these scenes. The movie credits do not list a stand-in/double for Anjelica Huston. Can you confirm that someone other than Huston is underneath the whiteface makeup, and if so, who? Herschel53 (talk) 02:33, 16 August 2011 (UTC) I have seen behind the scenes footage and there were images of Ms.Huston getting the heavy makeup applied and the Disney company and/or George Lucas would never have a stand in/double be seen/acting in the film and/or being listing as another actor in the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.176.137.161 (talk) 06:25, 16 August 2011 --76.176.137.161 (talk) 06:37, 16 August 2011 (UTC) DPS

While I do recall interviews and behind-the-scenes pieces on the making of Captain EO back then showing Ms. Huston in make-up sessions where she was being transformed into the Supreme Leader character, it's also possible that she was only in make-up for the close-up segments. Again, based on what I remember, the Supreme Leader appears to be suspended/held by a tangle of wires, tubes and what-not. That could have been a form of stunt work, something Ms. Huston might not have been comfortable with, thus requiring a stunt double.

Also, as a general rule, Disney doesn't run end credits for films that are part of its theme park attractions, leaving it to the audience to recognize the famous actor/actress in the given role, let alone giving credit to any stunt actors that might have been in the piece. I can think of only one instance where the actors (at least the famous ones) were identified, and that was on a plaque outside the first theatre that was part of "The Magic of Disney Animation" at Disney's Hollywood Studios, back when it was still an actual animation facility. The plaque gave the title of the film and identified both Walter Cronkite and Robin Williams, but none of the other actors/artists. (Yes there are probably others, but like I said, this is one I can think of.) --McDoobAU93 16:56, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

albums in series

I was wondering how many albums there were in the Songs 4 Worship series. The reason I'm asking is becauseI'm thinking about purchasing one of each. Please let me know if more information is available. Thank you.24.90.204.234 (talk) 04:59, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

The albums are part of a series by Time–Life. You can find the various albums in the series at the publishers website here. --Jayron32 05:17, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Why do I get dialtone when I call Kate in GTA 4

I didn't do the mission where she dies I did the one where Niko's cousin, Roman dies. I finished the game and while I was taking Packie, her brother drinking after the final mission she called and said I could call her but when I did I just got the same dialtone that I got before I finished the last mission. Plz help I really want to interact with this character more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.176.137.161 (talk) 06:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't think you can, as far as I'm aware that's the end of it. Would've been better if you saved Roman--GroovySandwich 06:28, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I couldn't save him it was a cut scene and besides if I had killed Dimitri she would've died --76.176.137.161 (talk) 06:36, 16 August 2011 (UTC)DPS

I mean you should have chosen the option that allows Roman to live since he's more useful than Kate, who you can't even interact with, at all, once you complete the game. So what I'm saying is the answer to your question is no, you can't call her after you complete the game, as far as I'm aware--GroovySandwich 06:54, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

That saddens me because I dumped my ingame girlfriend who my character met online in between the time when I had not finished the final mission for Kate thinking they could rekindle their love before Roman's death --76.176.137.161 (talk) 07:01, 16 August 2011 (UTC) DPS

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Films similar to Stand By Me (film) and Super 8 (film)

I REALLY loved these films and want to find some great films just like these --FilmGuySuper8 (talk) 03:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

The Goonies and The Monster Squad are similar--GroovySandwich 06:55, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

The Goonies for sure, as well as The Sandlot. Happy movies :D TheGrimme (talk) 18:30, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

And moving into the horror genre, there's It (1990 film), by Stephen King. StuRat (talk) 02:20, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

I loved that one --FilmGuySuper8 (talk) 03:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

The characters in it are a bit older, but American Graffiti has a similar feel and is one of my alltime favorite movies. --Jayron32 04:09, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Son of Rambow. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:58, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Does anyone know of any good books that are coming of age stories of males

I really like coming of age stories mostly because I could relate with the characters plz help and thanks --FilmGuySuper8 (talk) 07:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC) Oh yeah it's FilmGuySuper8 plz follow on Twitter

There are some examples, including recent ones, in our article on Bildungsroman and more in our Category:Bildungsromans. ---Sluzzelin talk 09:06, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

The Chocolate War is one I particularly remember enjoying as a youth. --Jayron32 13:47, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Ender's Game Is another one. --Jayron32 15:53, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Ditto to The Chocolate War and Ender's Game. And you might also enjoy Bridge to Terabithia. You can probably find a number of films that are based on books in Category:Coming-of-age films. Dismas|^(talk) 20:07, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I always thought the Bridge to Terabithia wasn't really a coming-of-age book; it reminded me more of straight childhood fantasy (ala Narnia or Alice in Wonderland). What I liked of the Chocolate War was that the book was clearly geared toward the young adult; but didn't talk down to them. It was probably the first book I read that didn't have a "happy ending". Another one that just came to mind was Dear Mr. Henshaw which I always admired for treating the young reader like an intellectual equal, and not like a child. --Jayron32 01:11, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

It's interesting that you give those two books as "childhood fantasy". Narnia is a straight allegory of the Christian story, while Alice in Wonderland is a satire on Victorian education of girls. --TammyMoet (talk) 07:22, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

To nitpick, I'd agree that parts are, but would say you're oversimplifying both. Comet Tuttle (talk) 08:58, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

But not as simplistic as dismissing both as mere "childhood fantasy"! --TammyMoet (talk) 14:38, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't call Bridge to Terabithia a fantasy book—it's been a long time since I read it, but IIRC it was about friends who made up an imaginary land, but most of the story took place IRL. —Akrabbim^talk 14:50, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Possibly. It has been a long time since I read it as well, and when I did (way back in the 6th grade, say 1987-1988 or so) I positively hated it, so perhaps my memory was a bit faulty. --Jayron32 15:27, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

The Catcher in the Rye Bielle (talk) 01:22, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

The Outsiders (novel). StuRat (talk) 02:05, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Books that fit the theme, even if some don't feature a young man:

• Citizen of the Galaxy the best of the Heinlein "juveniles"
• The Wild Shore Kims Stanley Robinson (may be found in Three Californias trilogy) Boy grows up in post nuclear-war America, a great read with literary merit
• Watership Down a classic
• Friday (sexuality, protagonist is a female cyborg, but male oriented book) one of Heinlein's best
• Stranger in a Strange Land (sexuality, epic in scope)
• Lord of the Rings (many themes, including assuming the burden of responsibility, much better than the movies)
• A Spell for Chameleon Piers Anthony--good juvenile read will also appeal to reluctant readers
• Split Infinity Piers Anthony

μηδείς (talk) 00:37, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole - the whole set is pretty funny 195.49.180.85 (talk) 14:56, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Pesky youngsters = car fuel (sci-fi film)

I watched a quite terrible sci-fi film on VHS a number of years ago, set in a post-apocalyptic desert where young folks dwell in some kind of subterranean (SP?) facility and er.. do science type stuff, and wear 70s clothes. At the end of the film the main character, a young woman, has been running away from/toward something when she is suddenly picked up incongruously by a family driving a futuristic car. The father carries the girl to the car, but instead of helping her into the car he throws her into the boot where she is used as fuel, remarking that all the humans out in the desert are "poor savages" or something. Does any of this ring any bells? I'd love to see it again. God knows why. Someoneanother 15:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Idaho Transfer. It was bad in so many ways but also oddly good. Staecker (talk) 23:02, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I thought I was going to have to write to SFX to find an answer. Someoneanother 23:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

If you like that one, you might like the new Outer Limits episode where "everyone contributes in their own way". In the case of pesky teens, their contribution to the community is as compost. StuRat (talk) 02:16, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

The poor sods, I'll have to keep an eye out for that. Someoneanother 17:38, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Does anyone know Elle Fanning's fanmail address if she even has one

I'm a huge fan of Super 8 and I'm going to send my poster that I bought on eBay to all the cast members to sign it for me. I've spoken to 5 out of 6 of them on Twitter and they say that they will sign and return posters if they are sent to them so don't be telling me how they probably won't sign posters even though I know for a fact that they do. --FilmGuySuper8 (talk) 21:27, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I googled "elle fanning" fan mail and the first hit yielded an address and phone number, here. I would obviously call first to verify so you don't end up sending your poster to a random Internet weirdo that took months of SEO work to get his link up there as the first hit so he could steal your poster. Comet Tuttle (talk) 08:57, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried Comet's link? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 20:19, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

I went to the page and from what it looks like it's kinda out dated --FilmGuySuper8 (talk) 23:38, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Unresolved

--FilmGuySuper8 (talk) 19:00, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, you are going to need to pick up the phone and call that phone number. What happened when you tried? Comet Tuttle (talk) 22:36, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Madonna Sticky & Sweet Tour

When is she dancing one-on-one with a female dancer? 88.8.66.196 (talk) 23:03, 16 August 2011 (UTC)