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November 26

2008 Kid's Choice Awards in the UK

Can anyone point me to a reliable place that lists the results for these awards? - Mgm|^(talk) 11:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

The winners are listed at the KCA UK website, http://kca.nick.co.uk/. Also, there is an article on Wikipedia with information about the award show, Nickelodeon UK Kids Choice Awards 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Breadchastick (talk • contribs) 15:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

• I know but I can't cite that page. It's not static and I can't point directly to the winner's section. As soon as they change the site I lost the reference. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:16, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Final Fantasy 7 Crisis Core

What is the quote that Angeal says to Zack and then Zack uses to the Shinra soldiers. I know it's something like 'Embrace Your Dreams' but i dont know the rest of the quote. Does anybody know the rest? 76.15.217.156 (talk) 04:33, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

"Embrace your dreams, and whatever happens always protect your honor" Chemical Weathering (talk) 12:32, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Reading Music

How many of those pop/rock/etc people can actually read music? While on this question, how many of them have even heard of Dvorak? Vltava 68 (talk contribs) 02:40, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

That's impossible to answer on either front, at not very relevant anyway. The ability to read music and/or knowledge of Dvorak may be useful but are hardly required to be a successful musician. Exxolon (talk) 03:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I have no percentages to add, nor do I disagree with Exxolon. The way you phrased your question suggests that you don't expect many of "those pop/rock/etc people" to be able to read music. Though I have no reference, my experience with pop/rock/etc instrumentalists (i.e. not singers) is that most are able to read music to some degree. The percentage of fluent sight readers is a bit lower, but here too you might be surprised.

As for Dvořák, again impossible to quantify, but the pop/rock/etc genre is vast and draws influences from everywhere. Particularly prog rock has explicitly and directly drawn from classical music. Snippets of Dvořák's Symphony No. 9 in E Minor "From the New World" can be heard in "America" (The Nice, 1968) or "The Wizard's Last Rhymes" (Rhapsody, 2001), for example. For a track including sampled bars out of the New World Symphony, there is "Same Old Thing" on Original Pirate Material (The Streets, 2002). I'm sure there are more examples. I have heard several adaptations of Dvořák's Humoresque No. 7 in G♭ in jazz, notably by Art Tatum. ---Sluzzelin talk 09:08, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

The variation is likely to be quite wide. Take a band like Metallica for example. In the "original" band, Cliff Burton was a classically trained musician, and the only one of the group with formal music training. He could definately read and write standard music notation. The other members couldn't (and likely still can't, according to such recent sources as Some Kind of Monster and Classic Albums). But it didn't stop them from understanding music and how it works. They continue to make good sounding music despite not being able to read musical notation. As another example, Phil Collins improvised his own musical notation, as described in some documentaries (can't remember which; likely something on VH1 Classic about Genesis; perhaps an episode of Classic Albums or some such) and used to write the horn parts for songs in his improvised notation, which involved using various squigly lines of various length to indicate what he wanted the horns to do; they found it weird at first, but the horn players admitted to be able to understand what he wanted them to play, and after they got used to his weird notation, could generally play exactly what he wanted even though it wasn't written the standard way. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 13:14, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

"They continue to make good sounding music" Adam Bishop (talk) 00:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Richard Wagner was a composer of whom it has been said "His music is better than it sounds". Fortunately, Dvořák doesn't suffer from this; his music is no better than it sounds, but it is every bit as good as it sounds. - JackofOz (talk) 04:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Btw, when I read this question, I immediately thought of Sibelius (computer program), and I guess it's possible to use that system with a Dvorak Simplified Keyboard. I think both gentlemen would be pleased. -- JackofOz (talk) 04:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Camouflage, the synth-pop/ gothic 1980s band

I would like to contact whoever is a big writer of your articles on bands to ask/ contribute about an a listing for Camouflage, the 1980s European synth-pop/ gothic band. The only site I can find is http://www.camouflage-music.com/, but there are also BitTorrents of their music available on torrent sites.99.49.39.235 (talk) 03:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

First of all, if you see anything missing from Wikipedia, you are invited to add it yourself with the following caveat; Wikipedia is not the first source for any information; all subjects that have articles at Wikipedia need to demonstrate that other people, unconnected to the subject, have written extensively about it in the past. If you have access to sources such as reviews of the band and their works, biographies written by third parties, or the like, please feel free to create the article yourself and add that information. See also these guidelines for inclusion of new articles. Cheers! --Jayron32.talk.contribs 03:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

The article already exists! See Camouflage (band)!! Exxolon (talk) 04:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Most recent MS-DOS game

What is the most recent MS-DOS game, official or not? If it is an unofficial one, what is the most recent official one? JCI (talk) 04:03, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Its hard to tell. MicroSoft stopped supporting MS-DOS sometime in the middle-to-late 1990's. Windows 95, the first independent Windows operating system, came out in, well, 1995, give it about 1-2 years before they dump the old system completely, means that the last games to support MS-DOS usage probably came out in 1996 or so. Prior to Windows 95, prior versions of Windows were basically GUI-shells that still required installation of MS-DOS first; though many games were written that required the use of Windows 3.1 rather than MS-DOS. According to our article on MS-DOS, the last revision (MS-DOS 8.0) was released in 2000, but that version and the prior MS-DOS 7.0 series, were never intended for independent release; they were merely an operating environemnt included in the Windows 95/98/Me family. If I had to make a guess, the last successful MS-DOS game is probably the open-source NetHack. The latest official release of NetHack was version 3.4.3, released in 2003 (see [1]). Lots of graphical interfaces have been created for NetHack, but the basic game still runs in the DOS mode, even if you play in Windows XP or Vista. I still play it, BTW. Its a cool game; I recommend grabbing a copy. As far as any other games go, well, I supposed anyone could dust off an old 286 computer and write a game to work in DOS-6.0 today or something, but NetHack is probably the best guess for the last successful, wide-release game for MS-DOS. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:27, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

ADOM had the most recent version release in 2002. MaxVT (talk) 23:06, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Music Videos in Disney Channel (cont.)

In my last question, one person answered to do a video search. But I can't search for videos because they are not whitelisted. So can you please just tell me what music videos here?

Are all the songs in list of Disney Channel music put into music videos? Does it contain all the music videos showed on Disney Channel? If not, then make sure it contains all the music videos and that it tells which ones are music videos (or do that for these singers and bands). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.166.196 (talk) 05:40, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

You can't seach Google video? --Jayron32.talk.contribs 11:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

trivia

he was the barrack obama of the oscars and he lost his job cos he couldnt drive ..i got this trivia and i'm still researching on the answer..so anybody with a hint of the answer..help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.49.74.65 (talk) 09:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Morgan Freeman? Adam Bishop (talk) 09:52, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I think the answer is Sidney Poitier. Like Obama he is featured on List of African-American firsts; Obama for being the first African American President, Poitier for being the first African-American man to win the Academy Award for Best Actor (1964). There are web gossip sites stating that young Sidney Poitier was reportedly fired from his job parking cars because of his poor driving skills. ---Sluzzelin talk 19:46, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

But Morgan Freeman was also the President (Deep Impact) AND he lost his job when he couldn't drive (Ms. Daisy)... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 02:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking about that. Unfortunately, I still haven't seen Driving Miss Daisy, and the article doesn't make it clear that Hoke loses his job or that he loses it because he can't drive. Is that what happens in the movie? ---Sluzzelin talk 08:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking, but I can't remember. Poitier makes more sense anyway, if that gossip is true (and if the author of the question thought it is true then it doesn't really matter if it is or not). Adam Bishop (talk) 16:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Song title

Does anybody know the name of this song? It is a rock song where some of the scenes in its music video feature people playing bowling in a bowling alley. The video can be seen in The Soundtrack Channel. Some the words I remember went "... tell me why" or probably like that. 124.106.203.208 (talk) 10:24, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Check out My Own Worst Enemy (Lit song)...cheers, 10draftsdeep (talk) 14:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank god you answered that - I recognised the description of the video but couldn't think of the song... was really starting to bug me! I love this song - reminds me of my teenage angst years going to dingy rock clubs and jumping around drunk on cheap alcopops... Oh 2007 was a good year...  ;-) hehe Gazhiley (talk) 11:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Tape from years ago

I was wondering if anyone could confirm if songs such as "Going Gets Tough" and "You To Me Are Everything" were on a tape (cassette, not vhs) called "Stepping Out"? This is probably really random. Thanks. Simply south (talk) 19:36, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

By which artists? According to our article You to Me Are Everything, that song has been covered by several notable artists. And When the Going Gets Tough, the Tough Get Going has also been covered a couple of times too.

Also which particular album called Stepping Out? Astronaut (talk) 04:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Dallas Green/City & Colour - Comin' Home

Does anyone know of a decent tab for the solo/electric guitar parts of this song? —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 20:42, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

George Sampson's single

• This article mentions the single made just 2398 sales so far, which based on the number of screaming fans I saw in the videos of release day seems rather low. They mention a technical fault on iTunes. Is this number the amount of iTunes downloads since last night when it eventually became available? And is it possible to check the iTunes chart without installing iTunes? - Mgm|^(talk) 23:08, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

you take anything the sun says as accurate?! There's your first mistake... Seriously though, I don't think you can check iTunes chart without installing the software as you have to view it through the actual programme itself - that's my experience anyway... I would suggest radio1's website, and try and find a link on there to the company they use to compile their charts... I think it's called "The Offical Chart Company" or something like that... Or google UK download chart and see what results come up... or wait until Sunday! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gazhiley (talk • contribs) 11:24, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Funny things keep shining through

What song has the lyrics "funny things keep shining through"? It may be "Funny things" at the beginning of the chorus and then the words "sihining through" later.

Something like:

Funny things keep (three syllables)

(Seven syllables)

(three syllables) keep shining through

(Seven syllables)

The chorus may contain the words "Don't give up so easily", but I may be thinking of another song.

The song's instrumentation or something sounds similar to "I Can Dream About You" by Dan Hartman. Subliminable (talk) 23:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure it's not finer things [2]? Nanonic (talk) 23:29, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

That's it! Thank you thank you thank you thank you thaank you thank you thank you! I had googled every permutation on "funny things" and "shining through" and still couldn't find it! If it hadn't been for you I never would have found it. I checked the music video for "Finer Things" on Youtube and that was the song. Subliminable (talk) 23:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

For reference, all i did was google "keep shining through" lyrics and check the first few results. Seems to work a lot of the times when trying to find songs from random phrases. Nanonic (talk) 23:52, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Also for reference, becasue you or someone will almost certainly ask if there's a name for what you did, it's a mondegreen.Somebody or his brother (talk) 03:16, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

moola moola momma headrest

what's that song? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.11.34 (talk) 23:50, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

celebrete

how old is the gangster rapper lil wayne? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.53.38 (talk) 23:59, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Our article - Lil Wayne - says he is currently 26 years old. Nanonic (talk) 00:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

That seems way past the age where "Lil" is appreciated as a nickname; as it no longer applies to his overall height, it must rather mean something else. StuRat (talk) 01:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

It didn't seem to bother Mr. Penniman any... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 02:16, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but being little, in his case, would be an advantage, in that it would allow him to fit into places that most other men would be reluctant to enter. StuRat (talk) 17:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Little Jimmy Dickens is still called that, at the age of 87. BTW, what does "celebrete" have to do with this question? Little Red Riding Hoodtalk 18:28, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

My take on it was as a misspelling of 'Celebrity'. Nanonic (talk) 19:54, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Or perhaps the OP thought that his birthday might be near and there was cause for a birthday celebration? Dismas|^(talk) 06:15, 28 November 2008 (UTC)