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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 14:29, 5 July 2009 [1].

List of national parks of Sweden

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Nominator(s): TheLeftorium 21:58, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this article for featured list status because I've been working on it for a few days and I think it meets the FL criteria now. It is partly based on the featured list List of National Parks of Canada. TheLeftorium 21:58, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

These nation park lists seem very inconsistent, some have capitalization, some don't. I think it should be in lower case unless it is used as proper noun.—Chris! ct 01:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'd just like to point out that in the case of List of National Parks of Canada, "National Parks of Canada" is the name of the actual organization, so I figured that was the most suitable title for it. -- Scorpion0422 20:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Resolved comments from Crzycheetah
    • EPA? On the first use of Environmental Protection Agency mention EPA
      • Done
    • "200,000 ha (490,000 acres)" - write hectare in full and link it; link acre, too.
      • Done
    • The first section needs to be renamed. "National parks", maybe? Because "list" is very ambigious; also, there is a list in the second section, too.
      • Done
    • As Chris mentioned, color shouldn't be the only indicator.
      • Done
    • "A river delta in Sarek National Park." - no period is needed
      • Done
    • For the last three captions in the first section, add some info. Be creative! Just the park name is very dull.
      • Done
    • "Dalarna, Gävleborg, and Västmanland County" - Dalarna, Gävleborg, and Västmanland counties
      • Done
    • "Örebro County and Västra Götaland County" - Örebro and Västra Götaland counties
      • Done
    • Same with the location column. When I sort it alphabetically, Örebro County comes last.
      • Same as above.
    • The {{Sister}} template should always be located at the top of the last section in the article.
      • Done
    • Could you also add the English translations for the publishers?
      • Done
    • It's very confusing to see Ängsö National Park listed last. Assuming the list is alphabetical, most readers expect to see it at the beginning, don't they?
    • Since you added the map, there's a useless horizontal scrollbar. Are you able to fix the template?
      • I don't know what's causing that either. I'll ask Reywas92.

--Crzycheetah 01:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing! TheLeftorium 09:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I don't know. The list is good, but I think that neither this nor the Canadian one is the best it can be. I wrote the FL List of National Monuments of the United States, which has more info. There could be a photo for each NP, but only if that's possible. I would really like a short description of what's actually in the NPs. We've got a nice list of names, but why are they special? Reywas92Talk 15:14, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll see if I can add something. Thanks for taking a look! :) TheLeftorium 21:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
All done. TheLeftorium 16:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support Great job!! Reywas92Talk 18:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 11:46, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose
  • No need to relink Swedish language in lead.
  • You mention World Heritage Sites in the lead but not Protected Area Network Parks. Could you briefly cover what that means please?
  • "is comprised of " is generally considered to be incorrect. "is composed of" or "comprises" are more generally acceptable.
  • "Baltic Sea that is dominated " that is=redundant.
  • "and the waters of " the waters of=redundant.
  • "Deciduous forest surrounded by a 56 meters (184 feet) wide earth bank takes up a large part of the park" doesn't read well to me. Is there a missing "that" after bank?
  • "with abound 30 " about?
  • "meadows rich with flowers " reads like a tourist brochure, not an encyclopedia.
  • " moraine hills that are covered with virgin forest " that are=redundant.
  • " borders to Norway " remove "to"
  • "deep valleys sculpted by the sea" tourist brochure again.
  • 4192 ->4,192
  • Establishes heading is odd - Date of establishment?

The Rambling Man (talk) 10:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All done, thanks for reviewing. TheLeftorium 11:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Please double check your future nominations for plagiarism or close paraphrasing. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:13, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Strong Oppose from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) Plagiarism concerns:
  • The basis of my opposition. These are just three examples picked at random; I'm afraid to look for more:
    • Article: "Garphyttan National Park consists of landscape which has been formed by humans through agriculture and forestry"
    • Source: "Garphyttan national park consists of ancient cultural landscape – land which has been formed by people through agriculture and forestry."
    • Article: "Norra Kvill is a well-preserved ancient forest"
    • Source: "Norra Kvill is something unique - a well-preserved ancient forest"
    • Article: "The park is known for its ancient farm landscape in the archipelago environment, the spring flowers, and the varied bird life."
    • Source: "The foremost sights of Ängsö are the ancient farm landscape in the archipelago environment, the spring flowers and the varied bird life." Dabomb87 (talk) 15:56, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Other things:
  • "system of protected areas which represent"-->system of protected areas that represent
  • "An additional six parks will be established between 2009 and 2013."-->Six parks will be established between 2009 and 2013.
  • "are covered with broadleaf forest and together only cover approximately 2,000 ha (4,900 acres)."
  • "with around 30 islands located in " "around"-->about
  • I see text copied from the source,:
    • Woah, whoa, hold on a sec. I would never plagiarize a source on purpose. Seriously, I meant to add quotations to the POV-ish sentences but I simply forgot. I will immediately do that where I feel they are necessary and rewrite as much as I can in my own words. TheLeftorium 16:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I had to remove most of those quotation marks. Although they are the same words the source used, they should be used as paraphrases, not quotes. You can quote a sentence, but not just a generic word. Quotation marks around a single word are misconstrewed as scare quotes and are taken the wrong way. Either just write it as a paraphrase that happens to use one of the same words, or find a synonym. Reywas92Talk 18:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That I did not know. I have reworded the sentences so that they don't sound too much like the source. :) Thanks, TheLeftorium 18:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There's a dead link (check the toolbox to your right). I'll try to revisit today or tomorrow. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks! TheLeftorium 10:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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