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The list was promoted by Giants2008 17:13, 8 September 2015 [1].

List of national nature reserves in Somerset edit

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Nominator(s): — Rod talk 15:13, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Following the inspiration provided by the FLC nomination of List of Local Nature Reserves in Hertfordshire. I created this list of the national nature reserves in the County of Somerset largely following the format used in previous nature reserve nominations. Each entry has appropriate pictures, details of area and location, links to maps and details and a description. As ever any comments gratefully received.— Rod talk 15:13, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 13:43, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Not sure you need one decimal place when you're talking in thousands of hectares, and particularly when the conversion doesn't use the same degree of accuracy.
    • I've changed these to one decimal place when small amounts and no decimal places when large areas.— Rod talk 13:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think "surrounded by well established" should be "well-established"?
  • "one of only 3 localities" -> three.
  • "sward. [4]" remove space, and what's a sward?
  • You use NNR in the table but have noted that abbreviation anywhere.
    • Abbreviation added on 1st use.— Rod talk 13:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the National Trust owned" shouldn't that be "the National Trust-owned"?
    • I've added it but unsure on this one.— Rod talk 13:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sometimes in the description you relink the NNR, sometimes you don't.
    • Sorry I'm not seeing this one - could you point to an example?— Rod talk 13:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • ")Cynosurus cristatus" parenthesis fail, and I also don't think they should be italicised either.
    • I turned it to "(" but I thought MOS generally asks for the latin names of plants & animals to be italicised.— Rod talk 13:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yep, but not the parentheses themselves. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:05, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        • Your eyesight must be better than mine - hopefully sorted now.— Rod talk 13:19, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Relatively recent change to the way we describe animal species, e.g. Common Blue is now Common blue, Small Tortoiseshell is now Small tortoiseshell etc etc.
    • Every time I look this seems to change. I've attempted to fix them (but always find this a challenge).— Rod talk 13:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "barbastellus)and" space here.
  • Most of the descriptions for the last two lack inline citations.
    • Don't know how I failed to do this - I've now added references for just about every claim made.— Rod talk 13:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • RSPB or The RSPB?
  • Note b is missing a full stop.

That's it on a quick run, I didn't want to see this without a review! The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, anything further (from anyone) appreciated.— Rod talk 13:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Dudley

  • I do not like the first sentence. "The ceremonial county of Somerset consists of... two unitary authorities"? The whole paragraph is only tangentially relevant to the article and may be confusing to someone who does not understand the difference between unitary and non-unitary authorities. I would relegate it to a footnote and delete the history.
    • I think it is important to give some context for readers (perhaps not from the UK) about the area under discussion. This paragraph, or versions of it, have been used on lots of FLs to provide the context. I have removed the history about Avon.— Rod talk 19:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would expand the third paragraph. There are many more interesting facts you could mention.
    • What would you suggest?— Rod talk 19:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • E.g. Bridgwater Bay a RAMSAR site and Ebbor Gorge archaeologically important. Dudley Miles (talk) 20:32, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • A lead image would make the article more visually attractive.
    • As all entries have a pic I wouldn't know which one to choose & I think "more visually attractive" is a subjective opinion which not everyone may agree with. What I've done on some lists is to add a map with red markers for the sites on the list and used this top right, if that would be helpful?— Rod talk 19:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • As you say this is a matter of personal preference. Dudley Miles (talk) 20:32, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Barrington Hill. "A total of 74 different species have so far been recorded." Species of what?
    • Added species "of orchid".— Rod talk 19:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ebbor Gorge. I do not like the use of the term "Devensian", which only British specialists understand. How about [[last glacial period|end of the last Ice Age]]?
    • Thanks I've used your suggestion. I was reflecting what the sources used which I was looking at.— Rod talk 19:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Gordano Valley. According to NE at [2] this is only biological, not geological.
    • The SSSI citation sheet says "The peat deposits of the Gordano Valley are of considerable stratigraphic interest. Cores extracted from Walton Moor provide evidence of the vegetational and climatic conditions that prevailed in this part of South West England from late Glacial times until the Romano British marine transgression."— Rod talk 19:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes I saw that but many sites are of considerable geological interest but not geo SSSIs, and Gordano was only notified for its bio interest, so "A biological and geological Site of Special Scientific Interest" is wrong. Dudley Miles (talk) 20:32, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Hardington Moor is an 8.7-hectare (21.5-acre)" Why repeat a detail in the table?
  • The notes refer to local not national nature reserves.
    • Thanks for spotting this - I reused your wording but have now changed this (particularly the one about the area which is from MAGIC rather than any NE listing).— Rod talk 19:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is it worth covering access? I deleted the column for it at your suggestion in Hertfordshire LNRs as there is only site with no public access, but I see that there are several in this list.
    • Rather than add another column, this could be added in the description where public access is restricted. (The only one I spotted is the "Somerset Levels NNR", although access to the rest of the Somerset Levels is possible.— Rod talk 19:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • I do not think it matters where it is added but I think it is useful to readers. Other sites are Huntspill and Rodney Stoke (most of site). Dudley Miles (talk) 20:32, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Where did you find the maps? I could only find one map for the whole country for NNRs.
    • I went to MAGIC set up the layers to show NNRs and typed in the names of the reserves.— Rod talk 19:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • A first rate list. A few quibbles. Dudley Miles (talk) 18:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Dudley Miles (talk) 20:52, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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