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List of international cricket centuries at Eden Gardens edit

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Nominator(s): Dey subrata (talk) 11:24, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

After working with many other lists and helped some list to become Featured Lists, I improved the article with all required information, citations and structure. I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets all of the FL criteria per WP:WIAFL and has a scope of getting FL status. I welcome to all comments and suggestions regarding this nomination. Dey subrata (talk) 11:24, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 11:25, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments
  • the main international cricket venue of India → venues of India
  • as well as being a Test, One Day International → as well as Test
  • Till date, 77 Test centuries → To date, 77
  • scored scored five Test centuries → scored five Test centuries
  • Till date, 13 ODI centuries have been scored → to date
  • No player have scored more than one → No player has scored more
  • Till date, no Twenty20 centuries were scored → to date
  • denotes number of balls faced by → denotes the number
  • Archive sources.
  • fix dashes.
CAPTAIN MEDUSA, fixed all, did not find any dashes issue, if you still find any let me know. Dey subrata (talk) 11:22, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:07, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments on the lead
  • "often called as" => "often called the"
  • "as well as Test, One Day International (ODI) and Twenty20 International (T20I) venue" => "as well as a Test, One Day International (ODI) and Twenty20 International (T20I) venue"
  • "the first of these was in January 1934" = "the first of which was in January 1934"
  • "As of 13 November 2014" - that was six years ago, why is the date so old?
It was last time an ODI century was scored, changed to 22 Nov.2017, its the last time an ODI was played.Dey subrata (talk) 15:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It should say "As of 2020, 30 ODIs have been played at the ground, the most recent on 21 September 2017" because it's not guaranteed that no ODI will ever be played there again -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ChrisTheDude, sounds better to me, fixed. Recent date should be there because "as of 2020" will let the readers perceive as if a test match occured in 2020. In reality Test match is a rare occurence in a venue, occurs after years sometimes 1.5 to 2 years. Similarly ODIs too. Home season comes after 1 year, so expected occurence of a ODI in the same venue is 1 year atleast. Above that, test venues are very rarely used for T20Is. Above that, hardly venues are repeated in a single year as there are more than 20 international venues in India. The recent date actually gives the reader a specific info. Dey subrata (talk) 20:28, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
""as of 2020" will let the readers perceive as if a test match occured in 2020" - not true at all. It simply means that the information is correct as of 2020 -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:04, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ChrisTheDude, but just by keeping as of 2020, does not tell you that the last odi was played almost 2.5 years back. I think no harm in giving complete information. And seeing the most recent odi cancelled for the lockdown one can now wait another one year to witness an odi at Eden. I think some dates are important, atleast for this case and this stadium. Dey subrata (talk) 05:23, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
On the contrary, when the article says "As of 22 November 2019, the Eden Gardens has hosted 42 Test matches", people will look at that and think "well it's now 2020, so the article is out of date". By all means state separately when the most recent Test was played, but the "as of" date should be the current date -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:14, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ChrisTheDude, added this line, The most recent Test match, the first ever day/night Test match in India, was hosted between 22 and 24 November 2019, when India played the visiting Bangladesh team. Is it ok now. Dey subrata (talk) 16:58, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • "by Everton Weekes of West Indies" => "by Everton Weekes of the West Indies"
  • " thus became the first Indian" => " thus becoming the first Indian"
  • "to have scored a century at the Eden Gardens" - is *the* Eden Gardens or just Eden Gardens?
It should be "the" EG, I think only missed once, corrected. "As of 22 November 2019, the Eden Gardens .." Dey subrata (talk) 15:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK, in that case why is the article title not List of international cricket centuries at the Eden Gardens......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:40, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ChrisTheDude Undoubtedly... Facepalm Facepalm what an error ! Moved and fixed. Dey subrata (talk) 20:28, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The highest individual Test score by any foreign player" => "The highest individual Test score by a player playing against India" (every player is foreign player to someone)
correct, not foreign players, teams are not necessarily to play against India only, so should be "overseas player", thats cricketing term used for player who is not native to the country. fixed.Dey subrata (talk) 15:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "scored by Rohan Kanhai of West Indies" => "scored by Rohan Kanhai of the West Indies"
  • "five Test centuries each, highest number of Test centuries scored by an individual player at the ground" => "five Test centuries each, the highest number of Test centuries scored by an individual player at the ground"
  • "a total of 7 centuries" => "a total of seven centuries"
  • "The first ODI centuries scored at the ground" => "The first ODI century scored at the ground"
  • "was by the Kris Srikkanth of India " => "was by Kris Srikkanth of India "
  • " The first century scored by a foreign player" - as before
  • "Desmond Haynes of West Indies" - *the* West Indies again
  • "the highest individual ODI score achieved at the ground. This score is also the highest individual score in the ODIs" => "the highest individual ODI score achieved at the ground as well as the highest individual score of all time in ODIs"
  • "The highest individual ODI score by any foreign player" - same again
  • "Two centuries were scored during ICC World Cup in 2011" => "Two centuries were scored during the ICC World Cup in 2011"
  • "7 T20I matches were also played at the ground" => "seven T20I matches have been played at the ground"
  • You also may as well update the "as of" date, as it's still true
I think you missed, as already "As of 4 November 2018" is there in the sentence.Dey subrata (talk) 15:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I did not miss it, but you have misunderstood what I meant. It should say "As of 2020, seven T20I matches have been played at the ground", because seven have been played there to date. If you really want to clarify that the most recent was in 2018 (although I don't see why you would need to), explain it after the bit about the first -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed accordingly. Dey subrata (talk) 20:28, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "To date, no Twenty20 centuries were scored at the ground" - should be "have been scored". Also, is there a reason you have changed from T20I to Twenty20?
Should be T20I.Dey subrata (talk) 15:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Karu Jain of India scored the only Women's One Day Internationals (WODIs) century achieved at the Eden Gardens"
  • "To date, no century was scored" => "To date, no centuries have been scored"
  • I have only looked at the lead so far, I will look at the rest later -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:05, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ChrisTheDude, fixed all above. Please check. Dey subrata (talk) 15:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:04, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
;Further comment
  • "(a Test match have a maximum of 4 innings & an ODI match have 2 innings)" => "(a Test match has a maximum of four innings and an ODI match has two innings)"
  • First photo caption: "Sir Everton Weekes was the first batsman who scored a test century at the Eden Gardens, scored 162 runs on 31 December 1948" => "Sir Everton Weekes was the first batsman to score a test century at the Eden Gardens, scoring 162 runs on 31 December 1948"
  • Second photo caption: "Syed Mushtaq Ali was the first Indian to have scored a test century at Eden Gardens, scored 106 in the same test match in which Sir Weekes scored his century." => "Syed Mushtaq Ali was the first Indian to have scored a test century at Eden Gardens, scoring 106 in the same match in which Weekes scored his century." (FYI, "Sir + surname" is never used)
  • Third photo caption: "India's former captain Mohammad Azharuddin scored 5 test centuries at this ground and the first batsman to have achieved this feat." => "India's former captain Mohammad Azharuddin scored four test centuries at this ground and was the first batsman to have achieved this feat."
  • Fourth photo caption: "VVS Laxman of India has the highest individual Test score by any batsman at this ground, with a score of 281, also the second batsman to have scored 5 test century at the ground after Azharuddin." => "VVS Laxman of India has the highest individual Test score by any batsman at this ground, with a score of 281. He was also the second batsman to have scored 5 test century at the ground after Azharuddin." Also, no need to wikilink Azharuddin again in this caption.
  • The "as of date" at the top of each table should be 2020
  • Why are the "as of" bits half in italic and half not
  • In all of the "as of" bits, "were scored" should be "have been scored"
  • Fifth photo caption: "Kris Srikkanth is the first ever player to have scored an ODI century at the Eden Gardens." => "Kris Srikkanth was the first ever player to score an ODI century at the Eden Gardens."
  • WODI header: "As of 19 March 2020, only one century was scored in the Women's One Day Internationals (WODIs), played at the ground" => "As of 2020, one Women's One Day International (WODI) has been scored at the ground"
  • Ref 4 has no work/publisher listed
  • All the best -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:16, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ChrisTheDude, fixed all above.Dey subrata (talk) 17:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Harrias
  • "..as well as a Test.." To prevent this seeming like a run on from the previous statement clarify: "..as well as being a Test.."
  • Consider being more vague in some of the statistics that aren't too important, to prevent it continually having to be updated: "has hosted 42 Test matches" could be "has hosted more than 40 Test matches", remove the detail about the most recent matches altogether.
Removed the most recent from all formats, but for Test, made a little tweak seeing the the most recent match is the first ever day/night Test match of India, so kept accordingly. Dey subrata (talk) 13:29, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The first century scored by an overseas player was on 1 November 1981.." It was in 1989.
  • "Ryan ten Doeschate of Netherlands scored.." "of the Netherlands".
  • "the 1st and 2nd innings" Is this necessary? If it is, at least change it to "first and second".
  • "denotes the number of balls faced by the player to score the particular score" This is a bit clunky, just trim it to "denotes the number of balls faced by the player"
  • "refers to the date the test match started." Capitalise "Test match". No full-stop needed.
  • "refers to whether the player's team won lost or if the match was drawn." No full-stop needed.
  • As, per MOS:ACCESS, "By default, most screen readers do not indicate presentational text attributes (bold, italic, underline)", do not use these as the primary indicator of something: ideally replace them with an accessible symbol, such as {{dagger}} or {{double-dagger}}.
  • Consider using {{NA}} in replace of "NR".
  • File:Everton Weekes.jpg needs a US PD tag.
  • File:Mushtaq Ali 1936.jpg needs a US PD tag.
  • Remove the 110% font size from the ODI table.
  • Per MOS:ACCESS, do not use colour as the primary indicator of something: ideally replace them with an accessible symbol, such as {{dagger}} or {{double-dagger}}.

That's all from me at the moment. I will claim points for this review in the WikiCup. Harrias talk 11:02, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Harrias, fixed all above. Please comment if anything else. Dey subrata (talk) 13:29, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Harrias, waiting for your further comments. Dey subrata (talk) 05:20, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Harrias, kindly put your comment, so that the process can be moved further, I've other lists to nominate. It will be helpful if you make your comment as soon as possible. Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 17:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support apologies: all my concerns have been dealt with, and I'm happy to support this. Harrias talk 21:02, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 20:37, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • "These include the first ever day/night Test match in India, was hosted between 22 and 24 November 2019". For this to work grammatically, it needs "which" before "was".
  • Keys, In the Result description, a comma would be helpful after won (before the connected refs).
  • VVS Laxman photo caption: "He was also the second batsman to have scored five Test century at the ground...". "century" should be "centuries" here. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Giants2008, fixed all above. Dey subrata (talk) 21:12, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source review – The reliability and formatting of the references both look okay, and the link-checker tool shows no issues. I'd call the source review a pass. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:26, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Giants2008, it has been 12 days since the source review done, meanwhile another reviewer too reviewed. Can it be promoted now. Drat8sub (talk) 17:14, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --PresN 02:39, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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