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List of awards and nominations received by Matthew McConaughey edit

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Nominator(s): Jiten talk contribs 13:46, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a list of awards and nominations received by actor Matthew McConaughey, well known for his role in the movies Dazed and Confused (1993), A Time to Kill (1996), Bernie (2011), Killer Joe (2011), Magic Mike (2012), The Wolf of Wall Street (2013), Dallas Buyers Club (2013), Interstellar (2014) and the TV series True Detective. I tried to make the list as comprehensive as I could and used the List of awards and nominations received by Leonardo DiCaprio as a base for the format. This is my first good/featured content nomination so I hope I haven't messed anything up. Questions and suggestions are most welcome. Thank you for your time and efforts. Jiten talk contribs 13:46, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per my so-called comments on my talk. I have made several edits to the list i.e. copy-edits, formatting. I don't know if I am too involved to support it, but I think it meets the criteria. FrB.TG (talk) 16:38, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support after a read-through, this appears to meet the criteria. I added an "a" and a "the" in various places... Courcelles (talk) 17:27, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This kind of format is starting to get me down a little. The MASSIVE whitespace in the lead beside the basically pointless TOC is frankly awful and the multiple single-entry tables are pretty much useless. I'm unclear as to why we wouldn't use the "List of awards and nominations received by ... A MOVIE" template which puts all the wins, nominations etc into a single table. The movie award FLs don't feel the need to explain the reason behind each award, and simply link to them instead. I know the default response is "all the rest are like this" but I honestly can't remember one with the visual shortcomings that this one has. It's nothing personal at all, but I can't, in all sincerity, support this format. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:49, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @The Rambling Man: I agree that the whitespace is pointless and the awards with a single nomination/win just make the article lengthy. However, I find the introduction for each award quite informative. I'll gladly remove them if they seem unnecessary though (as I said, I'm a newbie when it comes to featured content). I'm not sure which template you are referring to. Can you provide an example? If the template makes the article more visually appealing, I'm all for it. I found that finding sources and making the list as exhaustive as possible was the hard bit. Switching the format shouldn't be too hard — just lots of copy-pasting stuff around. Jiten talk contribs 17:30, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for your understanding and open thinking! I guess I'm thinking along the lines of List of accolades received by Call Me by Your Name (film) for example, just to see if we can create a more aesthetically pleasing single table? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:24, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @The Rambling Man: Okay, so I've revamped the format along the lines of the list you recommended. How does this look? Pinging Courcelles and FrB.TG for their opinions on it as well. Jiten talk contribs 23:05, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Jiten D sorry for the delay, I've been batting away some nuisance flies. I think your proposed new format looks spot on. Hopefully others will agree, and we can start a new dawn for individual accolade FLs! The Rambling Man (talk) 06:50, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @The Rambling Man: No worries about the delay! I've left a note on the talk pages of the other two reviewers for their opinions on the new format. If there is agreement, I'll implement the changes to the article right away. Jiten talk contribs 10:07, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me. I wouldn’t mind having a similar table when writing a future list (although I haven’t written an FL in months). FrB.TG (talk) 14:25, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The new format looks better to me. Courcelles (talk) 14:36, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man, I've made the changes to the article. Let me know if there are any other improvements that can be done. Jiten talk contribs 09:22, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I will do. I'm sorry I haven't got back to it, I've been super busy in real life and now I'm away on business but I'm hoping I can get to this review as soon as possible. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:25, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from — Miss Sarita 15:05, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
*Comments on refs:
  1. Can we find a replacement or supporting citation for ref #5 stating that McConaughey actually won the Academy Award for Best Actor? The current ref only names the nominations.
    Replaced ref with one that has both winners and nominations.
  2. There are dual refs for several nominated awards (I'm assuming one is for the nomination and the other is to declare McConaughey didn't win the award). But, then there are other nominations listed that only cite that he was nominated, with no winner announced. Are we able to be consistent throughout the list?
    The reason some nominations have only one ref is because the ref contains both nominations and winners. The only exceptions to this are: 1997 Chicago Film Critics Association, 2001 Teen Choice Awards and 2003 Teen Choice Awards because I couldn't find a ref for the winners. The 2001 Teen Choice Awards ref specifically mentions award or nomination so I think that can be given a pass. The 2003 Teen Choice Award has one potential ref: http://popdirt.com/the-2003-teen-choice-award-winners/18592/ but I don't know if it is reliable. The 1997 Chicago Film Critics Association is the only one without any sources (other than the one in the article).
    The first ref in the list for (for the AACTA International Awards) is what brought this to my attention. I wouldn't worry too much about it unless someone else brings it up. I tend to be hypercritical of consistency throughout refs. :-) — Miss Sarita 21:55, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh wow, not sure how I missed this one. I've replaced the AACTA International Awards ref with one that has both wins and nominations. Thanks for pointing it out!
  3. Refs #14 and #15 (for 2013 Chicago Film Critics Association) are duplicates; both name nominations only.
    Replaced ref #15 with an article that mentions the winners.
  4. For the Gold Derby Awards, the ref for the film-related awards (for Best Ensemble Cast and Best Actor) is for the 2013 ceremony, but the list states it's for the 2014 ceremony.
    This one took me some time to research. Both movies came out late 2013 and nominees for Gold Derby for a particular year are announced at the start of the year. I believe the naming of the award has some ambiguity here. The "2013" in the ref most likely means the year of the movie. The award would've been handed out the starting of the next year. I dug a little deeper and this is what I found out:
    So it looks like Gold Derby switched their naming rules mid-way making this all the more confusing. Do you think a note would be suitable for clarification?
    Nah. Your explanation makes sense. I don't think it'll come into question or be challenged, so it should be fine. — Miss Sarita 21:55, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  5. For the Houston Film Critics Society, the ceremony year 2013 is mentioned twice, but one of those links to the 2012 ceremony on Wikipedia.
    The ceremony for the 2012 movies took place on January 5, 2013. The ceremony for the 2013 movies took place on December 15, 2013. So the "year of the ceremony" is the same which makes it look slightly awkward. Perhaps another note here.
    This one, however, I believe a note is warranted. Your explanation removes any confusion, so perhaps a small note, gracefully placed somewhere, would be nice. — Miss Sarita 21:55, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    I placed two separate notes mentioning the dates of the ceremonies. Placing one note on either of the dates makes it look off-center compared to others (not the most visually appealing) and I'm kinda against placing it in the award column. So I had to settle with this. If you have a better idea, do let me know! :)
  6. For the Primetime Emmy Awards, ref only takes me to the acting nominees. I needed to select from the drop-down menu at the top of the page to reach the "Outstanding Drama Series". Maybe two different refs or a note within the citation?
    I've split the citation into two specific ones for easier verification.
  7. Refs #65 and #75 redirect to the site's main page.
    Fixed both links.
— Miss Sarita 18:09, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the comments, Miss Sarita. I've implemented some and clarified the others. Let me know what you think! Jiten talk contribs 21:35, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Made necessary changes/additions. Jiten talk contribs 10:02, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This is a really great work and a definite improvement with the new format which is very much pleasing to the eye aesthetically I should say. —IB [ Poke ] 09:04, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • I'd like to see McConaughy introduced before we start talking about his awards, so effectively something like switching the first and second paras around.
  • Or at least put his acting career into some kind of perspective in the opening sentence (e.g. when he made his debut etc).
    I have a test lede here if you dont mind taking a look. Another option is to just drop the "...has received various awards and nominations, including an Academy Award..." part since a lot of the awards are covered in the other paras.
  • Comments like " to critical acclaim. " really need inline references.
    Added ref.
  • I think "5th place" to "9th place" should sort between "Runner-up" and "Nominated".
    I did a little bit of testing in my own time and it looks like the code |data-sort-value="<words>" doesnt work well with {{no|9th place}} for example. The only workaround I could find was to manually edit the cell and add the sort parameter along with it (which is what I did here). If you have a simpler method in mind, do let me know!

Otherwise I think it's a great piece of work and should set the new standard in actor accolade FLs. Well done. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:01, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments, The Rambling Man. Let me know if you agree/disagree with the proposed lede and the other changes I made. Jiten talk contribs 20:26, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: You good to go on this one? --PresN 01:33, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support good, no great work. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:57, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – The reliability of the references looks okay, but there are several issues I found. Most are minor, but at least one is significant.

  • Refs 9–12 (all from PR Newswire) each show up as dead links on the link-checker tool. If they are dead, we'll need either archived versions or replacements. The rest of the web sources appear to be in working order.
    Archived all 4 links. Thanks for pointing it out!
  • Access dates are missing from refs 47 and 48.
    Added access dates.
  • The publisher of ref 37 (Horzu) should be italicized since that is a print publication.
    Done.
  • Some of the HitFix refs have the publisher italicized and some don't. I'd imagine that one style should be used consistently throughout the article.
    Italicized in all refs.

Giants2008 (Talk) 21:17, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the source review, Giants2008. I've made the necessary changes. Let me know if more needs to be done! :) Jiten talk contribs 12:04, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
With those fixes, I consider this source review a pass. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:08, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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