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List of accolades received by Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara edit

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Nominator(s): Frankie talk 15:03, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara is a 2011 film about self discoveries of three friends during a trip in Spain. It is the recipient of several National Film Awards, Filmfare Awards and other major Indian awards. As this is for featured list, I am expecting constructive criticism from reviewers and I will take care of them in its entirety. Hoping for the best. -- Frankie talk 15:03, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support — Fixed a few minor issues myself. Can't see much ado about this list. Well done, Frankie. Keep up the good work.  — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 04:50, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Questions: As per criteria 3b, why can't this list be reasonably included as part of a the main article at Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara? The main article is less than 50kB and this list, including the lead, is about 22kB and lead would not be required if it is part of main article. And why is NDTV Indian of the Year notable enough to mention? They seem to be giving awards in different possible categories every year. Sometimes the "Entertainer of the Year" goes to a film and sometimes it goes to a person. Some year they give "India's Heroes" and then no heroes are worthy the next year and some "Daughter of India" is given. Awards by media houses should be gauged properly before giving undue importance in an encyclopedia. They at many times tend to be just promotional get-together of friends and family utilizing their in-house resources to satisfy our "GNG" requirements. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how a film with over 34 awards can be merged to its parent article as it, including the infobox and the third paragraph, will clutter the the ZNMD article. Besides, I have seen worse cases where they have been successfully promoted. -- Frankie talk 11:57, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You wouldn't merge it along with the infobox and few awards are already mentioned in the main article. The FA E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial also has 34 awards; but that's wins+noms. And what is the limit for forking it out? Do we have a fixed number for that? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 12:16, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly have no idea about the required size as I have worked on a few film accolades list, but The Dirty Picture's and its accolades size are almost the same. Nevertheless, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a very good justification so I will leave it on @Giants2008, Crisco 1492, SchroCat, and PresN: to judge whether or not this list is content fork. -- Frankie talk 13:20, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Fair. I have no experience of creating any featured content or awards-lists. So let them decide. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 13:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Given that there are over 60 noms and over 30 awards here, and that such a table was not present when the main article became a GA, I think there's enough here to justify a separate page. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:09, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Giants for the clarification. @Dharmadhyaksha: You may continue your review if you wish to. -- Frankie talk 18:00, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any other comment as NDTV one is also removed now. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 08:57, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Yashthepunisher

  • "...written and directed by Zoya Akhtar". It should be "co-written and directed by Zoya Akhtar", as the co-writer is Reema Kagti. You can mention her name also, somewhere.
  • Delink ensemble cast, as it looks unnecessary.
  • "..featuring as the leading ladies." It should be "...featuring in supporting roles."
  • Authorlink Raja Sen and Mayank Shekhar.
  • You can elaborate the plot synopsis by adding that they explored themselves while overcoming their problems and insecurities. As self-discovery is the main theme of the film.
  • Wikilink the author at ref 22.
  • Publisher of ref 24 should be youtube, per ref 28. Yashthepunisher (talk) 11:29, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The publisher of the latter is YouTube while the former is a video footage posted in YouTube.
Thank you for the comments, which were quite helpful, and have been addressed. -- Frankie talk 20:42, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Johannatalk to me!see my work 20:31, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments from Johanna
  • Is there any way you could cite the translation given for the title?
  • Why are the musical score and cinematography particularly relevant?
  • I would also include something on reviews in the lead.
  • Roman numerals seem to be a bit of a nonstandard way of doing explanatory notes. I would change it, but I guess you can keep it if you want.
  • Speaking of these footnotes, two of them work well (1 and 2), but I don't believe the other two to be necessary. I don't see why we particularly need to know the former name of the Star Guild awards, while there is a less intrusive way to put an award for multiple films—listing it as for "{{sort|Kaif|[[Katrina Kaif]]<small>(also for ''[[Mere Brother Ki Dulhan]]'')</small>

That's about it for me. I'll be happy to support once this is fixed. Johannatalk to me!see my work 03:42, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Johanna: Thanks again for the comments. I have addressed them all. -- Frankie talk 15:00, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@FrB.TG: Support Thanks for the timely replies. As a QPQ, I would appreciate it if you reviewed this for me. It only has one review so far. Johannatalk to me!see my work 20:31, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Pavanjandhyala (talk) 10:14, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Pavanjandhyala
  • Indian cinema has multiple languages. Please mention the language in which this film was made.
  • Can you please add the producers in the lead? It looks incomplete when a film wins/gets nominated for "Best film" award and the producers are not available.
  • "The film stars an ensemble cast of Hrithik Roshan, Farhan Akhtar, and Abhay Deol, with Katrina Kaif and Kalki Koechlin in supporting roles." Dont you think three references for this single statement would be a case of WP:OVERLINKING?
  • When a cinematographer, whose article soes not exist here, can be credited in the lead, why not the editor?
I don't know if that would be wise. I added the cinematographer's name as s/he won a few awards but the editor's work wasn't recognized very much.
  • Since we have this statement "The film garnered awards and nominations in several categories, with particular praise for its direction, screenplay, and the performances of its cast", i think it would be beneficial if we mention the one who provided the screenplay.
In the very first sentence, it is mentioned "Zoya Akhtar, who also co-wrote the film along with Reema Kagti".
  • Generally, Rotten Tomatoes issues a "fresh" rating for films which received such positive reviews. If it did, mention it.
Mostly articles provide the ratings based on critics reviews so I think that's enough.
  • How many nominations the film acquired at the Filmfare and Zee awards should be specified in the lead.
I don't think that would be needed as there is already an infobox.
  • No dead/problematic links and that is appreciable.
  • Who reviewed the film on behalf of TOI? Mention the reviewer's name in the citation.
It's not clear who reviewed the film
It's Nikhat Kazmi. Yashthepunisher (talk) 13:43, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I dunno how you figured it but it's done. -- Frankie talk 15:29, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't usually write the publisher of a reference's publisher as that's not quite necessary.

Let me know when you are done with all of them. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 16:56, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support Good job on the list. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 10:14, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • Reference 1 should be moved outside the parentheses mark.
  • "and" is needed before "how each of them discover...".
  • All caps in refs 7 and 26 should be removed. Giants2008 (Talk) 03:15, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, both @Pavanjandhyala and Giants2008:, for your comments. I believe I have addressed them properly. -- Frankie talk 13:00, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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