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List of accolades received by Lost in Translation (film) edit

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Nominator(s): Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 03:44, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because after extensive revamping and extending the article's scope, references, lead, infobox, and the like, I believe it meets the featured list criteria. Lost in Translation is the second feature film from Sofia Coppola, a comedy-drama about the one-week-long relationship between an aging, lonely movie star (Bill Murray) and an intelligent recent college graduate in an unhappy marriage (Scarlett Johansson) in a Tokyo hotel. It won 67 awards and was nominated for 109 total (including the wins). Thanks to any willing reviewers in advance! :) Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 03:44, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from GagaNutella
Comments from GagaNutella
@GagaNutella: Thanks for the review! I have altered the article in response to your comments, which were very thorough. Let me know if there's anything more I should do. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 03:44, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support It looks great now. Congrats! GagaNutellatalk 14:46, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Frankie talk
Comments from FrB.TG
  • The list starts with the intro of the film and its director and writer, and then it directly jumps to the plot point. I think some of the crew members – who won (or at least were nominated for) a few accolades – need to be mentioned.
  • Done added mentions to the editor, cinematographer, and composers.
  • I think links like limited release and wide release need to be removed as they might border WP:OVERLINKING.
  • Done
  • You don't need to repeat Murray and Johansson as the winners of certain awards. Once you write their names in the first occurrences, I think that's enough.
  • I'm not sure what you're referring to here. Duplinks isn't bringing up anything in the article, and it's standard to link their names after each win/nomination. Johannatalk to me!see my work 03:57, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I had to be more clear. "At the 76th Academy Awards, Coppola won for Best Original Screenplay and the film received three further nominations—Best Picture, Best Director for Coppola, and Best Actor for Murray" – you don't further need to write say Johannson's name for his nomination of " Best Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy, Best Actor – Motion Picture Musical or Comedy for Murray". -- Frankie talk 11:54, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think what given in British Academy Film Awards are "prize".
  • Done
  • "and Best Foreign Film for at the Film Critics Circle of Australia, French Syndicate of Cinema Critics"
  • Done
  • Please be consistent with the usages of oxford comma.
  • Done I believe this is fixed, but please let me know if there are other instances that are not off (I do use the oxford comma). Johannatalk to me!see my work 03:57, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps a few more links for the See also section?
  • I would be open to it,, but I cannot think of anything else that would be appropriate, and pretty much all other FLs don't have any more than that year in film. Johannatalk to me!see my work 03:57, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Footnotes - "Certain award groups do not simply award one winner. They recognize several different recipients and have runner-ups. Since this is a specific recognition and is different from losing an award, runner-up mentions are considered wins in this award tally." – suggest just calling runner-ups "Runner-up" or "Finalist".
  • Done
  • One link dead and two showing problems, per this.
  • Of these links, two were actually working (the Hollywood Foreign Press and Writers Guild ones). The other two (DGA and Bodil Awards) were indeed dead or disconnected, so I added in archive links. Johannatalk to me!see my work 03:57, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise, writing quality in the lede is quite good. I would appreciate it if you come and have a second look here. -- Frankie talk 17:11, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@FrB.TG: I will. I have replied inline with a few responses. Everything else has been fixed.
Resolved comments from Miyagawa
Comments by Miyagawa
  • Very pedantic, but you can change "Ref(s)" to "Ref" in the column title since you only list a single citation for each row.
  • Done
  • The sorting on the result column isn't working correctly. It is currently sorting Won, then Nominated, then 3rd place then 2nd. I think Won, 2nd, 3rd, Nominated would the correct order.
  • @Miyagawa: Unfortunately, I'm not sure if this can be changed. Looking at other FLs, there is a similar sorting problem, but seeing that writing "runner-up" for 2nd place puts it in a more accurate position, should I do that (I have no idea about third place).
  • Once those are corrected then I'll be happy to add my support. Miyagawa (talk) 18:00, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 12:40, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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  • "...Charlotte (Scarlett Johansson) over the course of one week in Tokyo. shouldn't there be a comma after the parentheses?
  • Yeah, there should be. Done.
  • "Lost in Translation garnered awards and nominations..." garnered sounds a bit strange to me, perhaps received?
  • Done
  • "it won for Best Original Screenplay (Coppola)"
  • Done
  • I don't see why the font size should not be 100%. This is also a WP:ACCESS issue, as poor-sighted readers might struggle to read it.
  • Done The FL I've been modeling mine on did this, but I change it.

Looks good otherwise. NapHit (talk) 22:15, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@NapHit: Thank you so much for the review! I have responded to your comments and fixed them in the article. Take another look now and see if it seems better. :) Johanna(talk to me!) 01:02, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support NapHit (talk) 12:40, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Cowlibob (talk) 12:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
*The following awards/ nominations from notable organisations listed on IMDb are not present in the list: Cinema Brazil Grand Prize (Grande Prêmio do Cinema Brasileiro), Czech Lion, Cinema Writers Circle Awards Spain (Círculo de Escritores Cinematográficos), Directors Guild of Great Britain, Robert Award, Teen Choice Award, Valladolid International Film Festival (Seminci).
  • @Cowlibob: I have incorporated the Cinema Writers Circle Awards Spain, Directors Guild of Great Britain, and Valladolid International Film Festival references into the article. However, I was unable to find anything for the others. I pawed through the archives for the Robert Awards but could not find anything. I thought that I would be able to find the Teen Choice awards thing easily. Johanna(talk to me!) 03:57, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • What makes Cinema Donna a reliable source?
  • It's an film database centered in Italy that's not based on any sort of wiki model. Johanna(talk to me!) 03:57, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Better reference for US Comedy Arts Festival [[2]]
  • Done

Cowlibob (talk) 23:55, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 10:34, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Is there a reason we don't have an article for Fumihiro Hayashi since he "features" in this highly decorated movie?
  • I decided to remove his name. I added it only because he was in the starring section of the main article infobox. However, because the actor doesn't have an article it's not actually a very big role, I thought it would be better to remove instead. Johanna(talk to me!) 00:11, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "September 12, 2003 before" should be a comma after that 2003 I think.
  • Done
  • Is there a reason to pipe Deutscher Filmpreis to German Film Awards when we don't pipe Nastro d'Argento to Silver Ribbon?
  • K. K. Barrett has a space between his K.s.
  • Done
  • "Australian Film Institute Awards" are just "Australian Film Institute" in the infobox, there seems to be a few instances of inconsistencies between the table and the infobox in this regard.
  • I'm not so sure that coming second or third in something constitutes "winning" it.
  • I would take this one up with someone else besides me, as the consensus in these film accolades lists is that because they are a specific achievement and not simply a nomination, they should be counted as wins for simplicity. Johanna(talk to me!) 00:11, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd like to see a proper consensus for that. After all, 3rd place isn't actually "winning" something, is it? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:45, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @The Rambling Man: Okay, I changed it. Let me know how it looks now. The one remaining question I would have is what template you would prefer me to use for the "2nd place" or "3rd place" text. Currently, I changed it to the {{nom}} template, but I have also seen it done (in non-FLs, granted) using the {{draw}} template. Would you have me keep this or change? Johanna(talk to me!) 03:18, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise a very good list. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:49, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Thanks for the review! I responded to all your comments above. Johanna(talk to me!) 00:11, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: In regards to the second and third being counted as wins. I think it was based on placing being a distinction different from simply being nominated. I've opened up a discussion over at WikiProject Film as it'll affect many lists of this nature. Cowlibob (talk) 12:51, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source review: Formatting is as per MoS; the sources used are reliable; no dead links; spot checks show the information is correct (with one problem below) and that there is no plagiarism or close copying. There is one tweak needed:
  • FN 29 takes me to the 2003 Golden Globes, which doesn't refer to LiT – I think that needs to be redirected to the right spot.

It will be good to go after that final step has been taken. – SchroCat (talk) 08:47, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@SchroCat: Thank you for the comment and I have changed the Golden Globes ref to the correct year. Johanna(talk to me!) 15:34, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Closing as passed, then. --PresN 20:20, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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