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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 21 January 2022 (UTC) [1].

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List of Yuri on Ice episodes

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Nominator(s): ISD (talk) 13:39, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel that this list meets all the requirements for FL status. It fits into the mould of similar anime episode list FLs as seen here. I am unsure what if anything needs to be added to improve the list but any suggestions to help promotion will be useful. ISD (talk) 13:39, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:11, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

;Comments "It revolves around the relationships between Japanese figure skater Yuri Katsuki; his idol, Russian figure-skating champion Victor Nikiforov, and up-and-coming Russian skater Yuri Plisetsky; as the two Yuris..." => "It revolves around the relationships between Japanese figure skater Yuri Katsuki, his idol, Russian figure-skating champion Victor Nikiforov, and up-and-coming Russian skater Yuri Plisetsky, as the two Yuris..." The words "for their customers" are redundant and should be removed, also there shouldn't be a full stop in the middle of that sentence "On the end of the final episode" => "At the end of the final episode" "it was announced Yuri on Ice would return" => "it was announced that Yuri on Ice would return" "The ending theme was "You Only Live Once" by Wataru Hatano, and peaked" => "The ending theme was "You Only Live Once" by Wataru Hatano, which peaked" The amount of detail about the DVDs in the lead is too much, in fact most of it isn't even mentioned in the "broadcast and distribution" section. Move most of it to there. "5 years" => "five years" "5th consecutive" => "fifth consecutive" "prepares a training regiment" => "prepares a training regimen" (regiment is not the correct word here) "though he isn't able" => "although he is not able" "Though he doesn't land" => "Though he does not land" "wanting to prove the world that he's worthy" => "wanting to prove to the world that he is worthy" "Yuri remembers how he couldn't be there" => "Yuri remembers how he could not be there" "after he'd mentioned" => "after he had mentioned" "Yuri K. contemplates retiring after the GPF, and have Victor step down as coach" => "Yuri K. contemplates retiring after the GPF and having Victor step down as coach" "since he's content with coaching" => "since he is content with coaching" "though he isn't able to land it cleanly" => "though he is not able to land it cleanly" "JJ for the first time gives a very sub-par performance" - this is literally the first mention of JJ. Who is he? Note b is not a complete sentence so shouldn't have a full stop Great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:56, 21 August 2021 (UTC) I think I've made all the changes you suggested. Thanks. ISD (talk) 09:49, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support - nice one! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:11, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you. ISD (talk) 17:47, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Comments from Link20XX

• Why is Crunchyroll italicized in the note "All English titles are taken from Crunchyroll"? It isn't a news website in this context, nor is it italicized on its Wikipedia article.
• Shouldn't the English home video release be included in the Home Video release section?

Those are my first comments. I will give more after a close read-through. In the meantime, if you could leave comments on my peer review, I will much appreciate it. Link20XX (talk) 01:49, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

• • I think I've made the changes you have suggested. ISD (talk) 06:33, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Comments from TRM

• Replace the "n.a." in the fair use image with a proper justification, "n.a." is not an appropriate justification. Y
• Image caption is a fragment, no full stop required. Y
• MAPPA is unnecessarily piped to a redirect back to MAPPA. Y
• "to Yuri K." you say before that Yuri Katsuki (known as Yuri K.) Same for the others. Y
• "October 6, 2016 and" comma after 2016. Y
• "22, 2016 with" likewise. Y
• Link dub. Y
• "the message "See You NEXT LEVEL" was seen." displayed rather than seen. Y
• "the Billboard Japan Hot 100 chart" Billboard Japan should be in italics. Y
• Four-para lead is too much, three paras maximum. Y
• "the first Blu-ray/DVD set" don't repeat "Blu-ray/DVD" here. Y
• "in the USA on" just US. Y
• "produced by MAPPA, directed" see above. Y
• "Yuri on Ice will have six Blu-ray and DVD sets released" will have?? Y
• "series in the USA on" see above. Y
• "textless opening and closing" what is that? Y
• Spaced hyphens should be space en-dashes. Y
• "Hasetsu, Kyushu after" comma after Kyushu. Y
• "His performance gets secretly" is, not gets. Y
• " to Japan and" no need to link. Y
• You've linked it again in the second synopsis. Y

I'll come back to this, more soon. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 10:31, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

• • I hope I've done everything correctly, but I'm note sure about en-dashes. ISD (talk) 13:27, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
    • I'm going to need you to check each one off one at a time, you haven't done the first one! The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:51, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
      • Sorry, I thought that it was only one of the n.a. that needed replacing. I've corrected that, although if this is still not appropriate I would request a bit more help as to what does count as justification. ISD (talk) 18:58, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
        • That's fine. Please now go through each of my points and mark them off one at a time to ensure you've got them all. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:37, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
          • Hi - I think I've done them all, but I'm still not 100% sure whether my "n.a." replacements are suitable. ISD (talk) 16:25, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

• The headers of tables need to have colscopes, e.g. `! style="width:3em;" | No.` should be `! style="width:3em;" scope=col | No.`. This, along with rowscopes (which the episode list template gives you), helps screen reader software accurately read out the cells of the table.
• While the episode list template handles rowscopes for you, you need to add them to the "releases" table to the first/primary cell of each row, e.g. `|1` should be `!scope=row |1`. This changes the background color of the primary cells; if you don't like it, change the top line of the table from `{|class="wikitable"` to `{|class="wikitable plainrowheaders"`
• Tables need captions, e.g. `|+ caption_text` at the top of the table, (or `|+ {{sronly|caption_text}}` to make it only for screen reader software if the caption would duplicate a nearby section header). Captions let screen reader software jump straight to a named table without having to read out all the text before it first. --PresN 14:02, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

• I've tried to make the changes you asked for, but your guidance was not entirely clear. ISD (talk) 18:01, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

• My guidance was 1) add colscopes to all tables, 2) add rowscopes to the releases table, and 3) add captions to all tables, optionally using a template if the caption would be the same as a nearby section title. You did not do the first two, and while you added captions you also removed the section titles and made the tables collapsed? Collapsed templates like that aren't accessible and hide information from readers.

I've reverted your change, and instead done a quick example of what I was saying. I did not do the entire list; please do the rest. --PresN 18:56, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I've made some changes, but I'm unsure how much you changed and thus how much was still left to change. I'm positive I've done the third of things you have mention, but the first and second things you mention appear to have been done by you I think (I'm still not sure as I'm still finding it confusing). ISD (talk) 16:30, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

I just went ahead and did the rest, plus some other fixes. I didn't realize when I did the initial review that prior to nomination the only edits you'd made to the page since 2018 were a few references, and weren't at all familiar with what tables were on the page or what the table code was. --PresN 16:50, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Does this mean you now officially support the nomination now? ISD (talk) 06:41, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Resolved comments from AlexandraIDV 09:09, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Comments: I'll take a look at this - {{ping}} me if I haven't done a review within a couple of days.--AlexandraIDV 12:26, 12 December 2021 (UTC) Thanks very much. ISD (talk) 19:14, 12 December 2021 (UTC) ✓ Please add alt text to the image briefly describing it (something like "Illustration of Yuri K. skating with Victor" would suffice) ✓ "It is produced by MAPPA," -> "It was...": All the production information should be in past tense since the series has already been produced. ✓ "It revolves around the relationships" - "The story/series/etc revolves...": the last thing discussed is the figure skating choreography, so "it" would incorrectly refer back to that rather than to the series. ✓ "the two Yuris" is very casual language that I would recommend changing to "Yuri K. and Yuri P." This happens again a few times in the article including wordings like "both Yuris". ✓ "a film of the series" is unusual wording. I would just write "a film" - it is already clear that it's based on YoI since you precede it with "that Yuri on Ice would return with". ✓ I don't think it is relevant in this list how the opening and ending themes performed on the singles charts - it is good to give context before listing the episodes, but this is just a bit too peripheral. ✓ "Funimation began streaming an English dub on October 24, 2016, at 10:00 p.m. ET." - remove the time, it's much too high detail. ✓ Funimation is misspelled as Funimantion in one spot. ✓ "The anime's opening song was "History Maker" by Dean Fujioka, and its closing song was "You Only Live Once" by Wataru Hatano." - this should be in present tense, because the songs are still used for the opening and ending, and have not been replaced. Take a look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Japan-related articles#Titles of media and reformat the album titles accordingly. ✓ The transcribed title of episode 2 contains an extra space between the ! and the ? ✓ "15-year-old star skater Yuri Plisetsky goes to Japan to make Victor follow through on the promise he made to Yuri P. - that he will choreograph a program for his senior debut." can be improved a bunch. I would suggest "...to make Victor follow through on his promise to choreograph a program for his senior debut." ✓ "In order to" can almost always be rewritten as the shorter "To" ✓ The title transcriptions of episode 4 and 5 are not capitalized (see the manual of style page I linked earlier). ✓ You are missing a | before the language parameter in the reference titled "TVアニメ「ユーリ!!! on ICE」公式サイト". I need to step away from my PC now, but I will be back with more notes this afternoon.--AlexandraIDV 11:09, 14 December 2021 (UTC) @Alexandra IDV: I've been able to make most of the changes, although I'm not sure where the album thing is that you mentioned. I noticed there is a problem with the OVA table, but I don't know how to correct it. ISD (talk) 11:55, 14 December 2021 (UTC) I went ahead and did that and the changes you missed myself, no worries. I will continue my review now--AlexandraIDV 12:59, 14 December 2021 (UTC) ✓ "wanting to prove the world that he is worthy" - this should be "prove to the world", right? ✓ "Yuri K. becomes extremely anxious and distressed" - I would strike "extremely" from this. I understand why it's there, but I'm unconvinced that it actually adds any nuance for the reader. ✓ "doesn't" should be written out in full as "does not". This happens a few times. ✓ Since Oda and Lambiel are described as voicing themselves, I do not think it is also necessary to use "real-life" when describing them - it is already understood from context. ✓ Change "Official English title" to simply "English title" in both the TV and OVA tables. It is assumed that they are official titles unless specified otherwise, so we do not need to say so. ✓ Combine the two identical "All English titles are taken from Crunchyroll." footnotes into one. You can do this by adding a name parameter similarly to how ref tags work - see the template documentation. I will now go over the references. ✓ When a website itself is a creative work, its name should be written in italics (you achieve this by entering it into Cite web's website parameter); otherwise, it should be written in plain text (you achieve this by entering it into Cite web's publisher parameter). This means that Anime News Network (a news site) and Billboard (a magazine) should be in italics. ✓ There's some further inconsistency in the ref formatting: please make sure that Anime News Network and Crunchyroll are linked every time (they are not currently); and make sure that you actually name the source every time (currently, the ANN articles "Yuri!!! on Ice Anime Casts Swiss Skater Stéphane Lambiel as Himself" and "Yuri!!! on Ice Anime Casts Pro Skater Nobunari Oda as Himself" do not name ANN; and the two Billboard articles both named "Japan Hot 100" do either not name Billboard at all or only mentions the website URL). ✓ Some refs (Funimation and the "STORY" ref) have their titles written in all caps - please rewrite these to sentence case or title case. ✓ I am unfamiliar with the website Blasting News, but it is in any case discussing leaks rather than confirmed information - it would need to be replaced with another source. I think that is it for now. Please notify me when you have addressed the above or if you have any questions.--AlexandraIDV 13:47, 14 December 2021 (UTC) @Alexandra IDV: I think I've made also those changes, including the references, but please correct me if I have overlooked anything. ISD (talk) 17:12, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support on prose and accessibility. I have also reviewed ref formatting, but have not otherwise checked that the statements are backed up by the sources.--Alexandra^IDV 09:09, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Comments by Tintor2 (talk) 22:05, 3 January 2022 (UTC):

• Is there a romaji for the title?
• I have been told "()" should not be used so I suggest adding something like Yuri Katsuki, also known as "Yuri K." since it's more important for the rest of the body.
• FLCs are kinda demanding and I remember being asked with adding translations to Japanese references.
• I'm not sure about using Funimation as source since they block people from other regions so I would at least recommend an alternative to back it up.
• For some reason the opening and closing themes are repeated.
• "Note: Professional skater Stéphane Lambiel appears (voiced by himself in the Japanese dub and by Josh Grelle in the English dub) as a guest announcer for the GPF.[29]" Sounds kinda trivial unless it's worth mentioning in the body.

That's all. Ping me once the issues are solved and I'll support it. User:Tintor2

@Tintor2: I think I've done all the changes I can. I don't think there is a romaji for the title (there isn't one in the main Yuri on Ice article or in the ANN entry. Regarding Japanese translations, I'm not sure if there direct translations of those webpages, but I have referenced other English-language articles in the relevant spots if that is acceptable. Also, if referencing Funimation is wrong, is it also wrong to reference Crunchyroll. If so, I'll change the reference for the episode titles. ISD (talk) 11:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

@ISD: I meant using "trans-title" to the references. There is nothing wrong with Funimation but they don't allow other people accessing tot the site. Still, support without the nitpicking.Tintor2 (talk) 11:36, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

@Tintor2: Oh I see now. Thanks for clearing that up. ISD (talk) 11:44, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Comments from AryKun

Wow, this has been around for a long time. Haven't watched the show, so can't vouch for how correct the plot details are. Also haven't checked the references.

• Link Mitsurō Kubo.
• "broadcast in Japan, Funimation" → needs a conjunction
• Link Blu-ray/DVD.
• Standardize the spelling of "Mitsurou/Mitsurō".
• "challenging them - Yuri P." → " challenging them – Yuri P."
• "gets an Agape love" → Should agape be capitalized? Also check this in ep11.
• Don't think Russia needs a wiki link in ep3
• "him confidence" → "him the confidence"
• Japanese Figure Skating Championships is a uplink in ep5.
• "he is doing wrong" → Grammatically incorrect, rephrase. Perhaps "he is making a mistake"
• Beijing doesn't need a link in ep6.
• Thailand doesn't need a link in ep7.
• Moscow doesn't need a link in ep8.
• Barcelona doesn't need a link in ep10.
• "Phichit's, Christophe's, and Otabek'" → Who are these guys?
• "At the end" → "In the end"?
• Also, while not needed, a review at the FLC for List of birds of Nauru would be appreciated.

@AryKun: Thanks for pointing these out. I've made as many changes as I can. I've gone with the "Mitsurou" spelling in keeping with the article on that person. You don't explain what an uplink is regarding the Japanese Figure Skating Championships, so I thought it best to remove the link just to be sure. Regarding "Phichit's, Christophe's, and Otabek's", they were all fellow skaters in the competition, who are all previously mentioned in previous episode descriptions, but I added their surnames to help clarify things. Hope this all OK. ISD (talk) 07:35, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Actually meant to write duplink, but autocorrect came in the way. Anyway, all my concerns have been addressed, so I will support. Nice work with this and the amazingly fast response, hope it gets promoted soon. AryKun (talk) 08:03, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much. ISD (talk) 09:31, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Source review passed, mostly- if you could, please wherever a ref has a title in Japanese, please change e.g. `|title=TVアニメ「ユーリ!!! on ICE」公式サイト` to be `|script-title=ja:TVアニメ「ユーリ!!! on ICE」公式サイト` and add `trans-title=(english translation of the title text)`. I'm not going to hold up the nomination on just that, though, so, promoting. --PresN 19:36, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

I've amended that reference which you mentioned. Thanks for promoting this list up to FL. ISD (talk) 21:30, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

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