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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 21:42, 3 January 2018 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of West Virginia state parks edit

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Nominator(s): West Virginian (talk) 17:14, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this list because it gives possibly the most comprehensive summary of West Virginia state parks available. It gives a broad overview of the state parks' governance, a history of the state parks, and a list of both current and former state parks. I look forward to working with the FLC editors throughout this process, and I welcome your expertise, guidance, and suggestions. Thank you. -- West Virginian (talk) 17:14, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from BeatlesLedTV (talk) 04:03, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments from BeatlesLedTV
  • I'm not a huge fan of the npte style you've used. It makes it to where you have to click on the note to see the note itself instead it showing when hovering. Could we change it to efn style instead? Just a personal suggestion.
  • Fix the disambiguation link for "Rhine Creek" in the first table (Cathedral row).
  • Fix the disambiguation link for "Mill Creek Historic District"in the second table (Morgan Morgan Monument row)
  • Capitalize both uses of "near" in the second table (streams col)

That's all I got right now. Great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 21:08, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • BeatlesLedTV, thank you so much for taking the time to review this article and provide your suggestions! I modified the footnote structure to efn style and I also made the three corrections mentioned above! Please let me know if you have any further guidance in the meantime! -- West Virginian (talk) 03:25, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Found a couple more things. the former state parks table isn't currently alphabetically sorted correctly and put an en dash in the empty box in the Booker t. Washington row. (make sure it's centered) BeatlesLedTV (talk) 17:18, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • BeatlesLedTV, thank you for your additional suggestions! I have added the en dash to the Booker T. Washington end year column, as I have not been able to find a definitive year for when the park was shuttered. I have also modified the alphabetization of the former state parks list, per your suggestion. I had originally sorted the parks named for people by the first letter of their surname, but Watters Smith is always sorted by Smith's first name of Watters, so sorting by first name will do! Please take another look and let me know if there is anything else I can remedy in the meantime! -- West Virginian (talk) 02:37, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – Normally when sorting people you do sort by last name but because in these instances they are monuments and parks named after people I'd say sort by first name. Anyways, everything looks good to me. Happy to sign support. Great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 04:03, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note (a) should be a regular citation; no need to put the duplicative info in a footnote. The first sentence of note (c) is also redundant to the text preceding it - just put the citations in the text. Don't reference note (d) twice; leave the lead as just a summary and have the note or the info it contains only in the Overview section. There is an entire section for Former state parks, so note (e) is also redundant and unnecessary.
  • The images are rather small if you want to make them bigger.
  • An awful lot of the descriptions begin with "The park..." but any content would be assumed to be describing the park anyway. "The park is named for the 3,100-foot (940 m) tall Pinnacle Rock sandstone formation." could for example be written as "Pinnacle Rock is a 3,100-foot (940 m) tall sandstone formation."
  • Booker T Washington needs a date of disestablishment in the table.
  • Explanatory notes are not references; they can be in a separate Notes section. Reywas92Talk 22:08, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reywas92, thank you for taking the time to review this list and for providing your feedback and suggestions here! I provided footnote [a] to explain that the two rail trails are considered state parks and thought a footnote would allow me to also place multiple inline citations versus crowding all three citations after the first sentence. I will assess some alternative options in the meantime. I also removed the previous [d] citation per your suggestion. I increased the image sizes from 100px to 150px. Let me know if this will be large enough. I also removed the former [e] citation per your request. I separated the explanatory notes and reference sections. As for Booker T. Washington, I have not been able to locate a definitive date for its closing due to a lack in available data about the park. I have placed an en dash there until that date can be verified. I will also be incorporating your suggestion to pare down the size of the description, but I will be holding off for the time being until I receive a few more reviews so I can make all those changes together at once. Please let me know if you see anything else that needs adjusting in the meantime! -- West Virginian (talk) 03:37, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Looks pretty good! The Remarks column would also look better left-aligned rather than each line being irregularly centered. I don't see a problem with having three citations together, that's pretty common. Thanks for your great work here, it's nice to see more progress on park-related pages! Reywas92Talk 04:37, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reywas92, thank you again for your further guidance and for taking the time to improve this list! It is much appreciated. I attempted to only left-align the remarks column, but alas, I haven't been able to do so without re-aligning the other columns. I concur that the remarks look so much better aligned to the left, so I've modified the sortable table so that the info columns are all aligned left. This is actually consistent with other featured lists of state parks, like Louisiana and Pennsylvania. Please let me know if you think this works! -- West Virginian (talk) 16:31, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reywas92, I wanted to let you know that Corinne just completed a phenomenal copyedit of the remarks in both lists, thus paring down the descriptions per your suggestion above. Please let me know if you see any other issues that would preclude this from becoming a FL! -- West Virginian (talk) 00:08, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good, Support Reywas92Talk 18:02, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support –Well researched and referenced, article is greatly improved in formatCoal town guy (talk) 14:09, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 22:24, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Too many numbers for me in the opening two sentences, perhaps replace the last "36 of them" with "all but one of them"?
  • " ten are lodge/resort state parks, 25 are cabin, camping, and day-use state parks, and two" MOSNUM, all numbers or all words.
  • " four acres (1.6 hectares) to 10,100 acres (4,087 ha)" similar.
  • Shouldn't "kilometre" be spelt as "kilometer" if it's USEng?
  • In the table (because it's sortable), USACE should be linked each time.
  • Buffalo Creek is piped to a redirect.
  • Jacob Prickett Jr. no longer takes a comma.
  • "By 1960" doesn't sort correctly, use a {{hs}} template or something to force it to (say) 1959.

The Rambling Man (talk) 10:47, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • The Rambling Man, thank you for taking the time to review this list! I appreciate your suggestions and guidance and will be addressing each of these as soon as I have an opportunity. Thanks again! —West Virginian (talk) 13:29, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Rambling Man, thank you again for providing your guidance and suggestive above! I've incorporated all the suggested changes listed. Please let me know if you see anything else outstanding that requires further tweaking and I'll make the necessary changes as soon as possible. Again, thank you for taking the time to review this list! It is much appreciated. -- West Virginian (talk) 05:29, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Source review passed, promoting. --PresN 21:02, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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